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KManX89 said:
Replicant said:

Gold post.

IKR? Can't wait to see Carnage stab push people and decapitate push people and maybe if we're lucky, we'll get to see a really gruesome scene of Carnage ripping someone in half and then devouring them pushing someone.

He's wrong BTW, Marvel/Disney already said they'll let Deadpool remain R-rated in the MCU (the way it should be) and they have R-rated Netflix shows for Punisher and DareDevil.  Not only that, but Wesley Snipes is in talks of bringing Blade to the big screen for phase 4 with TWO potential projects and there's no way in hell he'll agree to any less than the R rated goriness the series is known for, so they've already proven to be more trustworthy with handling ADULT properties than Sony. Nice try, though. 

Seriously, this is worse than the trash bag-wearing poor man's Imhotep Dr. Doom in Fant4shit in terms of character bastardization, and believe me, that's saying a lot.

Meh.. According to VGC users, Venom was enjoyable in spite of being PG-13.



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KManX89 said:
think-man said:
It's a bit hard to make a sequel as a R18 when venom was PG 13.

The AVP sequel (Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem) was R when the first film was PG-13.

Ironically, Requiem was the worst of the two.



Replicant said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
Sony really should stop making movies. I'm just saying this as someone who is biased though,every movie ive seen that they have churned out has been atrocious. Sony king of gaming, toilet of movies :(

we'll wait and see though, gotta see the first screenshots and first trailer.

Sure, Spider-Man Homecoming and Jumanji were quite generic but what Hollywood blockbusters aren't?

If you look past the blockbusters though, Sony produces and co-produces some enjoyable movies.

Of the ones I've seen in 2017/2018:
T2 Trainspotting
Life
Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Call Me by Your Name
Only the Brave
The Wife
All the Money in the World
Sicario: Day of the Soldado
The Equalizer 2
Alpha

 

Can't you just.. you know not see their movies? Why do they have to leave the industry?

Shhhhhhhh! Don't dare you bring in common sense in the Sony Studios bashing bandwagon! Its not like we even care that they have the Sony Classics branch, do we?

While I do agree that the blockbuster attempts of the studio failed in the last couple of years, they are very strong in the art-house department. 



Vote the Mayor for Mayor!

Fox are doing well with their R rated Deadpool, Venom could be Sony's but they can't do that if they don't let the most R rated character in Marvel be R rated.



Hmm, pie.

hunter_alien said:
Replicant said:

Sure, Spider-Man Homecoming and Jumanji were quite generic but what Hollywood blockbusters aren't?

If you look past the blockbusters though, Sony produces and co-produces some enjoyable movies.

Of the ones I've seen in 2017/2018:
T2 Trainspotting
Life
Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Call Me by Your Name
Only the Brave
The Wife
All the Money in the World
Sicario: Day of the Soldado
The Equalizer 2
Alpha

 

Can't you just.. you know not see their movies? Why do they have to leave the industry?

Shhhhhhhh! Don't dare you bring in common sense in the Sony Studios bashing bandwagon! Its not like we even care that they have the Sony Classics branch, do we?

While I do agree that the blockbuster attempts of the studio failed in the last couple of years, they are very strong in the art-house department. 

Their original films are good-to-great for the most part, it's their adapted properties they fuck up. 



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hunter_alien said:
Replicant said:

Sure, Spider-Man Homecoming and Jumanji were quite generic but what Hollywood blockbusters aren't?

If you look past the blockbusters though, Sony produces and co-produces some enjoyable movies.

Of the ones I've seen in 2017/2018:
T2 Trainspotting
Life
Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Call Me by Your Name
Only the Brave
The Wife
All the Money in the World
Sicario: Day of the Soldado
The Equalizer 2
Alpha

 

Can't you just.. you know not see their movies? Why do they have to leave the industry?

Shhhhhhhh! Don't dare you bring in common sense in the Sony Studios bashing bandwagon! Its not like we even care that they have the Sony Classics branch, do we?

While I do agree that the blockbuster attempts of the studio failed in the last couple of years, they are very strong in the art-house department. 

Bold: Exactly. I see why people would want a gory Carnage movie but saying that Sony should leave the industry is such a knee jerk reaction.

Aggregating Box Office Mojo's data since 2001, total Oscar wins by studio are:

1. Fox + Fox Searchlight - 50
2. Sony Columbia + Sony Classics - 36
3. Warner Brothers + New Line Cinema (bought in 2008) - 32
4. Buena Vista + Walt Disney + Pixar - 30
5. Paramount + Paramount Vantage + DreamWorks (owned in 2006-2008) - 29
6. Miramax - 23
7. Universal + Focus Features (bought in 2016) - 22
8. Lionsgate - 20
9. Lantern Entertainment (former Weinstein Company) - 19

 

Edit: This year, movies by Sony Columbia and Sony Classics have 11 Oscar nominations.

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Enemy said:
It's not like Venom is any good or making money. It only made a pathetic 300 million in 10 days with an atrocious audience rating of 89% and a B+. Before the movie was revealed everyone said Venom without Spiderman would be impossible and they were right.

Yeah, Sony should give the Venom and Carnage IP back to Disney so Disney can have a monopoly and so Marvel can make it R rated and gory. Marvel has a great track record with R rated horror movies. It would be awesome to see Carnage ripping out people's intestines while Captain America and Spiderman watch in shock. Marvel would totally allow it if enough internet nerds attack them on social media and ambush them in airport restrooms.

Thread should be fucking locked after this amazing post, people need to take Marvel balls out of their mouths, they do great shit like Avengers but medíocre shit too like antman, and turds like ironman 3 , Thor 2.critics are bashing and do shit reviewers because they want Marvel to get it all, this time people Spike. Venom was a sucessão, deal with it. Spiderman homecoming is mediocre also, i hope they get their shit together on far from home



 

So...what exactly would be the great gain of having an R rated Carnage movie? What's the gain from having an onscreen character that's simply a red blob that's eviscerating people? Haven't we had a Thing remake already and more than enough bad Alien films?

I liked Venom. It was different than I expected but a damn good time at the cinema for myself and the missus. I'm looking forward to Carnage as long as they ignore the worse abuses of the comics that feature him.



I absolutely loved Venom, and obviously many others did as well as they ignored critics.

Bring it!



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"When you hear Carnage, the only thing you can think of is R. But, if you know his story, if you really know the comic, there’s no R here. He’s a tortured soul. It’s not about what he does, because we never have to show the knife going from here to there, and the blood is pouring. What you have to show is, what is the motivation? Was he born like that, or [is he] someone we should feel for, because if you succeeding in making a villain someone you can feel for, jackpot.”

I'm going to let Carnage explain his character for me, using quotes from his appearances in the 90's.

But isn't that what you want to hear, Doctor? That I was a poor, abused child? That my mother beat me? My father molested me? That I was tortured and hung by my ankles above a pit of broken glass? Well, maybe that's all true. Or maybe... I'm just the inevitable aberration. The soul that's born so black, so twisted, so filled with unreasoning hatred... that there's no explanation. You can't make me sane, Doctor. You can't hope to redeem me. All you can do is kill me. Because, if you don't—I'll break out of here. You have my word on that. And the blood—the glorious blood—will flow like wine!"

"I am the ultimate insanity! I am CARNAGE!"

"My name is Cletus Kasady and I kill people and I LOVE it. I know nine million ways to kill a body and I love every ONE of them. All dull day every day right up until I hit the hay I think of bodies bodies slit right up the middle and shared across a hundred nice little gardens. And when I sleep I dream of ways to kill a body that ain't nobody thought of yet. And occasionally I dream of mom and pop squirting into that old garbage disposal and just grinding and gnawing on the old man's skull."

"You're probably asking... WHY do I kill... well, simple answer. It's PRETTY. Waking up in the morning and knowing you're going to kill someone... it's a BEAUTIFUL THING. Makes me feel like a GUNSHIP, like my engine's only turning over when I'm MOVING and KILLING. Makes me feel like God on the first monday morning."

"I AM those kids burning dogs and hobos in the dark alleyway. The woman cutting a hole in the tied-to-bed Mr. Goodbar and inserting a vacuum cleaner tube in his stomach. The wife shoving broken glass down the husbands throat. I'm the American flag on fire, the Founding Fathers crucified for a chat show, lies, cursed lies and government. I'm the end of the world as we know it and I feel like a DRINK. I'm CHAOS. CHAOS and the rest of the world won't ADMIT that it's JUST LIKE ME. And because o' THAT the world is WORTHLESS, it's dirt on my HEEL. Love means NOTHING. It's a planet of mannequins filled with blood and they may as well be torn up and burst and stamped on because what ELSE are they good for?"

This is not a PG-13 kind of guy.



Love and tolerate.