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No they don't. What kind of games would that phone play? Android games? If so they already have their phones.

It is impossible yet to have a phone that can play anything above PS1 games. Especially PS3 and 4 is out of the question.



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bananaking21 said:
Your thread title is infuriating. I can't believe nobody commented on it yet.

I am open with criticism and such but atleast tell me why and what's the reason so I can correct it?
I find it offending when some one criticize me and they can't even point out what's wrong with it. 
If you are going to criticize atleast be constructive about it. 

@KBG29
I will appreciate more if some one will correct me. 

You know what, you're right. My apologies. I just thought that the mods would fix it. 



Oh yes, phones that get crippled by all the low end models, brilliant. Apple is the only company which could bring out games to take advantage of the hardware.



Helloplite said:
No they don't. What kind of games would that phone play? Android games? If so they already have their phones.

It is impossible yet to have a phone that can play anything above PS1 games. Especially PS3 and 4 is out of the question.

And this is how Sony will flop in the next gen because they've listened to people like you.



If someone asks why I'm using an alt account, CGI and Truckusaurus got me a temp approval until I get my iconic and notorious "kurasakiichimaru" account back. :p

MS and Sony both are. They both have large enough gaming footprints to be able to pull off mobile, though I doubt MS would do it without using assy Windows Phones. 

Doesnt Sony have a mobile game that rakes in tons of money? Maybe sticking to mobile software is better.



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kurasakiichimaruALT said:
Helloplite said:
No they don't. What kind of games would that phone play? Android games? If so they already have their phones.

It is impossible yet to have a phone that can play anything above PS1 games. Especially PS3 and 4 is out of the question.

And this is how Sony will flop in the next gen because they've listened to people like you.

No, man. Not because they will listen to me. CPU architecture dictates these confines, not I. There is physically no hardware now that can recreate the performance requirements of PS4 in a mobile factor. 

 

Furthermore, gaming phones never caught anywhere. Name one successful gaming phone, ever. They are a niche product and cannot receive the kind of exclusive, dedicated and specialist third party support that is required to make them viable.

 

Who will develop a bespoke game for a mobile knowing they won't be able to port it to the wider mobile community? 

 

By all means Sony could try another handheld at some point. But a gaming phone is out of the question unless they can figure out how to keep it enticing price-wise and supported.



NoCtiS_NoX said:
twintail said:

1) Sony are still I the restructuring stages of their mobile division. It's neither consistently stable nor consosconsis profitable for their goals to be anything but sustainability. If you think Sony is thinking of leapfrogging stability and growth to be the on the level of Apple or Samsung, then yout aren't seeing the full picture 

2) this doesn't sound sustainable. Add ons is not going to give Sony a commercially appealing phone. They aren't going to put the resources into dedicated games when they already bave a dedicated game developer to make iOS/ android games.

3) this doesn't change anything for Sony.

4) With PSnow rumoured to get download support and digital sales increasing year by year, your 'dont need internet's is somewhat archaic. Most ppl don't care that they need internet for anything. It's almost an expectation of life on whole.

5) potentially. Might. Yeah, possibly. But these gamer phones are really niche. And as mentioned, Sony already has similar specs phones and they are not cheap either. Price is a Sony problem in regards to their phones. 

1. I understand that but trying to capture the audiences of Samsung and Apple at this stage won't do them wonders. What I am trying to say is their phone lines are marketed to those audiences. In the long run their business model won't do them good. 
My suggestion is for them to do something different and having a gaming phone might be one of those reasons. 

2. add on accessory could bring Sony profits and having an exclusive games that can only played with Xperia and at the same time play from play store could lead to profits.

3, It does. We are getting games of quality now with mobile gaming.  Gaming is bigger now because of Gatcha games and free games and ability to play PS4 games with an accessory that could be big.

4, and PS Now will only covers old games isn't it? and It's only rumored for now.

5. Although I agree with the part of prices well they have to do it to be profitable but with that price adding something that is exclusive on your phones (gaming) then you are separating your self to the market leaders. Those niche you speak of can generate profits at the same time potentially grow your phone lines sales. 


1) To who though? I don't see the audience being big enough to warrant something which seems expensive. That is counter intuitive to getting a dedicated gaming device (even if a phone) marketable.

2) but who will make these games? They aren't getting anything from the Google store apps. Sony themselves aren't going to make the games and mass 3rd party support for handheld machines is limited. 

Add ons will just make the device even less appealing.

3)and where is all that storage space going to come from? Even if mobile gaming is getting bigger , it's not for paid games. 

4) very true. Still, as a service, it has more potential to make Sony more money. After all, it's their service sector that is making the PS sector most of its money.

5)niche is still niche. Unless they can make this device for like $399, it's not going to sell to many people. I also don't see how they will get dedicated games.

 

End of the day, Sony making a great phone is obviously a good thing. I don't see how this is the solution .it sounds costly, and most likwly will lack the support it needs. 



NoCtiS_NoX said:
HollyGamer said:
Yes it is. But they need to divide their resource to make another gadget.

For now SCIE are full with PS4 , PS VR, PS Now, PS Online, Games Studios and future PS5 . Just let they focusing on PS5 first and let PS brand getting more bigger. Once the time comes, i think they will making it in the end.

SCIE doesn’t need to fully support it. Sony already has Forwardwork that is dedicated for mobile.

It’s their phone division that needs to do it. Build up a studio for it. Like Sony Music they are the ones handling Fate on mobile. 

Or outsourcing from 3rd party devs.

Maybe you are right , they just need to lend the PS brand to the Phones division . And let the games studio make the games. But they need to make some exclusive games as well that is not available for other android phones, or perhaps they can just copied how exclusives worked of Nvidia Shield Consoles which is a streaming and android consoles, that has an exclusives as well.

And also they need a powerful GPU or CPU for the smart phones to make a difference from other smart phones  and targeting hardcore gaming consoles like Razer Phones and ASUS ROG. 



Nope, they are missing a lot of chances with their phones, tho.
They should go full Samsung strategy with them, keep making high quality phones but with high availability all over the world and strong marketing and that drops in price decently in a short to medium timeframe.
I would gladly switch from Samsung to Sony if I didn't have to pay twice the price here in Brazil. As I know a good bunch of people would as well.



Lol at everyone who thinks that Sony should make a Playstation phone. There is zero need. It would only serve to lose them even more money on their mobile division.

Of course, many of the people advocating it just want Sony to make them their dream phone rather than actually focus on the logistics of developing such a expensive device only to appeal to such a limited audience.