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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Microsoft and Nintendo Rejected Yakuza; Now They Want it According to Toshihiro Nagoshi

HollyGamer said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
lesson learned, situation is like Bayonetta. Sony and others passed and Nintendo is like ''i got you''.

Same situation here, good on this guy for sticking with the people who gave his game a chance.

Well Bayonetta came to PS3 and Xbox 360 and failed hard .  Yakuza were not even come to Xbox but it did come to Wii U though.  

Just curious but how did it 'failed hard'?  Both versions individually sold more than the Wii U version, and the Switch version isn't exactly selling alot either.  Seeing as how Nintendo's version has both Bayonetta 1&2 you'd think it'd sell more than last gen.

Miyamotoo said:
Just how much Nintendo changed from back then, now they want every game possible on Switch.

Guess they realize how important it is that they can't just rely on their first party games no matter how amazing they are.

Mr Puggsly said:
A few things...

1. Yakuza 1 wasn't a very good game.

*gasp* How dare you!!!



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I’m sorry if I missed something, what was Sony’s involvements in this game ? I don’t know much about the Yakuza franchise, but from the article it’s seems the development was possible because of the merger with Sammy.



abronn627 said:
I’m sorry if I missed something, what was Sony’s involvements in this game ? I don’t know much about the Yakuza franchise, but from the article it’s seems the development was possible because of the merger with Sammy.

Nagoshi pitched the game to several platform holders to see which system(s) they would develop it for. Only Sony was interested in the idea, and Nintendo and Microsoft did not like the idea of a game about the yakuza on their system. Fast forward to now and both Nintendo and Microsoft want Yakuza on their system. 

Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio and Sony have had a pretty health relationship though. In Japan Sony goes as far to consider Kazuma Kiryu as one of their mascots for the PlayStation brand, and even paid for the localization of Yakuza 5 when SEGA was going through their restructure after buying Atlus.



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abronn627 said:
I’m sorry if I missed something, what was Sony’s involvements in this game ? I don’t know much about the Yakuza franchise, but from the article it’s seems the development was possible because of the merger with Sammy.

Further that but Sega publishes and marketed the game.  What exactly did Sony do here?



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twintail said:
pokoko said:
I'm not surprised about Nintendo, both the initial rejection and now the reversal, but I am kind of surprised about Microsoft. They were actually going after the Japanese market back then. I guess maybe they thought it was tooo Japanese.

Good on the producer for sticking to his guns. The Japanese gaming industry trying to replicate what the west was doing was a mistake.

The JPN push came with the 360 and not so much the original Xbox, which is where it would have released had ms said yes.

So it's not that surprising. 

Well the X360 was released in Japan before the first Yakuza did =p

Anyway just preorderd kiwami 2 on psn :)






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This makes me glad than I bought Yakuza 0 for the support at the very least. Now, I feel compelled to get the rest.



PwerlvlAmy said:
lesson learned, situation is like Bayonetta. Sony and others passed and Nintendo is like ''i got you''.

Same situation here, good on this guy for sticking with the people who gave his game a chance.

I don't quite see the comparison. Nintendo just choose that losing money wasn't as important as another high quality exclusive. No company "rejected" or "denied" the game to release on their platform.



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abronn627 said:
I’m sorry if I missed something, what was Sony’s involvements in this game ? I don’t know much about the Yakuza franchise, but from the article it’s seems the development was possible because of the merger with Sammy.

They were open to it being on their platform. Apparently Nintendo (a family-oriented image) and Microsoft (don't really care about Japan-focused games) were not. This isn't a case where Yakuza needed funding and Sony swooped in to help a like Bayonetta 2. Sony was just open to the game series itself and didn't turn it away.



This is still quite odd. A developer went to the console platforms and asked them if they wanted the developer to make their game for their platforms?

This sounds like he was pitching it to them for publishing. You don't just do a game presentation and say, "Do you want me to make this game on your console?" When you do a presentation for a company like Nintendo, Sony and MS, it's for publishing.



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twintail said:
pokoko said:
I'm not surprised about Nintendo, both the initial rejection and now the reversal, but I am kind of surprised about Microsoft. They were actually going after the Japanese market back then. I guess maybe they thought it was tooo Japanese.

Good on the producer for sticking to his guns. The Japanese gaming industry trying to replicate what the west was doing was a mistake.

The JPN push came with the 360 and not so much the original Xbox, which is where it would have released had ms said yes.

So it's not that surprising. 

 

twintail said:
pokoko said:
I'm not surprised about Nintendo, both the initial rejection and now the reversal, but I am kind of surprised about Microsoft. They were actually going after the Japanese market back then. I guess maybe they thought it was tooo Japanese.

Good on the producer for sticking to his guns. The Japanese gaming industry trying to replicate what the west was doing was a mistake.

The JPN push came with the 360 and not so much the original Xbox, which is where it would have released had ms said yes.

So it's not that surprising. 

 

twintail said:
pokoko said:
I'm not surprised about Nintendo, both the initial rejection and now the reversal, but I am kind of surprised about Microsoft. They were actually going after the Japanese market back then. I guess maybe they thought it was tooo Japanese.

Good on the producer for sticking to his guns. The Japanese gaming industry trying to replicate what the west was doing was a mistake.

The JPN push came with the 360 and not so much the original Xbox, which is where it would have released had ms said yes.

So it's not that surprising. 

Ha. i don't think I've ever seen a triple post before. :)



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