Expect that ignores logic?
If the Switch spends more time vs the PS4/XB1,...... why does it belong to the same generation as the PS5/Xb2?

Wouldnt it make most sense to group things that belong together, by who the compete against and for how long of their life cycle?
if you do that, the switch belongs to the 8th generation of consoles.

9th gen: Switch2, PS5, Xbox Two (2020-)
8th gen: 3DS, Vita, Wii U, PS4, XOne,Switch (2011-2024?)  (switch replaced in 2024, by Switch 2)
7th gen: DS, PSP, X360, Wii, PS3 (2004-2013)
6th gen: Dreamcast, PS2, GBA, GameCube, Xbox (1999-2006)
5th gen: 3DO, Jaguar, Saturn, PS1, N64 (1993-2001)
4th gen: NEC, Genesis, Game Boy, Game Gear, SNES, Neo Geo (1987-2001)
3rd gen: NES, Master System, Atari 7800 (1983-1990)
2nd gen: Atari 2600, Intellivision, Odyssey2, Game & Watch (1977-1984)
1st gen: Odyssey, Home Pong, Telstar, Color TV (1972-1980)

^ this makes more sense.

Switch spends most of its life vs PS4/XB2, it belongs to the same generation of consoles the end.

The Switch may belong to the 8th generation consoles, it depends when the PS5/XB2 launch and when the Switch successor launches.

Switch (A) is a 9th generation console.

Switch (B) is an 8th generation console.

Yes it all depends on how much of it's life is alongside PS4/XBO and how much is alongside PS5/XB2.

I think Technology inside has to be put into consideration too.
By the time PS5 + XB2 launch, the Switch wont be able to play ANY of those multiplats developed for the PS5+XB2.

It belongs to the 8th gen, by the hardware & who it most likely will sell for the longest against.

No hardware isn't relevant, otherwise Handhelds wouldn't be grouped into generations with home consoles. Time is the only factor.

Of Course not, not just that Switch is successor of Wii U and 3DS, but its completely different tech/architecture than Wii U.

Power of console does not determine generation, I mean Wii was basically GC with motion controls and they are difrent gen consoles, going from Wii U to Switch we talking about much bigger difference in any case.

I think it is....

if a console cant play newly released multiplats (current gen games) then does it really belong to the current gen?

The Switch wont get any PS5 / XB2 games ports, its tech is too old and weak for it.

As for handhelds... their gens onto themselves, ei compaired to other handhelds (imo).
We just lump them together with the other homeconsoles.

Atari 5200 would like a word. Both it and the 2600 are part of the "2nd generation".
So would the Sega master system. Both it and the SG-100 are part of the "3rd generation".

Did you know there's only 8 months difference in release dates between the Atari 5200 (Nov '82), and the SG-1000, and NES (July '83) yet, the Atari 7800 is considered 3rd generation, even though it released in May '86, just a little over a year before the PC Engine came out, marking the start of the 4th generation. So the 5200 spends the vast majority of its life competing for shelf space with "third generation" games, yet it's considered "2nd generation", and the Atari 7800 spent most of its life competing for shelf space with "4th generation consoles", yet it's still considered third. Now you might be asking "well what was Atari's fourth generation home console" and the answer to that is that they didn't have one. The Jaguar is considered "5th generation".


Trying to come up with logic and reason to which consoles belong to what generations is a fool's errand. It's completely arbitrary.

Precisely, this destroy this argument of wich systems is competing with. Not only that, but how Xbox360  and PS3 have been competing most of their time with a 6 gen console (ps2),sharing many multiplat games. Bu but power! So in what gen can we put the wii?

To make it simple to their argumentss, guess onlyy Sony and MS can begin a new gen bc Nintendo is not worthy everytime they release a new platform that replaces their old one.

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In your collection you assume Switch-replacement by 2024. If Switch competes for four years with PS5 and Scarlett, then it is also 9th gen (it is the future, so I'm not sure if it unfiolds that way). I would say it is no shame to put the Switch both into 8th and 9th gen if that is what happens. Look, I would also say the lifetime of the Gameboy stretches over multiple gens. On the other hand multiple systems of the same manufacturer can fall into the same gen.

look at this.... front page of VGChartz.

http://www.vgchartz.com/embeds/worldwide_totals.png?a=6
Global hardware totals : "this generation"

Switch is there, alongside the PS4 and XB1.
Even VGC calls the Switch a 8th gen system.