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Have you tried VR yet?

Yes! 21 19.63%
 
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habam on 19 January 2018
Errorist76 said:

It also won't be the case the gen after next generation, exactly for the reasons you mentioned. No matter how popular VR becomes, and it will become much more popular, it will never come close to full coverage of the gaming market. It's not supposed to either hence why I don't understand why some people seam so scared of it, as if it would take anything away from them. If anything it adds to gaming as a whole.

I dont think thats 100% true. Many AAA games will likely be VR only in the future. its already happening.


Want to play the new Until Dawn prequel "the inpatient"? Only with VR.

 

I can see COD and GTA beeing the same as soon as VR beeing the mandatory plattform most people game on.



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LivingMetal on 19 January 2018
habam said:
LivingMetal said:

You purchase the television you want with the contrast ratio, refresh rate, and resolution you want while not having the burden of a VR set on your head while having full view of everything without having to turn your head in a limited field of view.  How is that NOT better?

Easy:

1. We talk about future VR headset. FOV wont be limited. It will just look like reality

2. Modern VR headsets will have the same best contrast ratio, refresh rates, resolution like TVs

3. VR headsets wont be "clunky" anymore (they arnt even extremly clunky currenlty). It will still be much easier to use them and you likely wont even/barely notice them

4. You can still have a full view of everything

 

hopes that helps.

No, it doesn't because I view console gaming as an overt lifestyle with all the factors I mentioned that plays an important part in my purchasing decisions.  I can always put on a nice set of headphones when watching a movie or listening to music to not disturb those around me.  But I would prefer to have the movie's audio freely bounce around a surround sound system while I feel the vibrations of that audio.  The same goes for music.  I'm not just listening with my ears, but I'm also feeling the music while sometimes sharing that music with others.

Part of my REALITY is playing games, and I present that reality to myself and others with the highest quality hardware that I can reasonably and practically afford.  It's NOT virtual.  All of this validate's my previous points because I want to sit back or lay around how I want and enjoy the immersion that my hardware produces that I bought into.  You cannot always do that with VR.  You are at the physically mercy of VR that can and have deterred  the experience from more conventional and quality means.



LivingMetal on 19 January 2018
habam said:
Errorist76 said:

It also won't be the case the gen after next generation, exactly for the reasons you mentioned. No matter how popular VR becomes, and it will become much more popular, it will never come close to full coverage of the gaming market. It's not supposed to either hence why I don't understand why some people seam so scared of it, as if it would take anything away from them. If anything it adds to gaming as a whole.

I dont think thats 100% true. Many AAA games will likely be VR only in the future. its already happening.


Want to play the new Until Dawn prequel "the inpatient"? Only with VR.

 

I can see COD and GTA beeing the same as soon as VR beeing the mandatory plattform most people game on.

Maybe in another reality. A... VIRTUAL REALITY???!!  



Errorist76 on 19 January 2018
habam said:
Errorist76 said:

It also won't be the case the gen after next generation, exactly for the reasons you mentioned. No matter how popular VR becomes, and it will become much more popular, it will never come close to full coverage of the gaming market. It's not supposed to either hence why I don't understand why some people seam so scared of it, as if it would take anything away from them. If anything it adds to gaming as a whole.

I dont think thats 100% true. Many AAA games will likely be VR only in the future. its already happening.


Want to play the new Until Dawn prequel "the inpatient"? Only with VR.

 

I can see COD and GTA beeing the same as soon as VR beeing the mandatory plattform most people game on.

As many games are made for handhelds only...It's possible that, at some point, the masses will have completely adapted to it, but I somehow doubt it.

The Inpatient is one of those games that simply wouldn't work without VR. So as I said, it adds a new way to play. Those games will be the most interesting ones going forward, I agree and if people like some here still refuse to play them, because of some whatever, fear or antipathy, it's their loss. But as we both know that decision might not be actually logical. Same as with people who refuse to buy a Switchbecause "Nintendo is for kids". You get my point.




CartBlanche on 19 January 2018

VR will die, just like 3D TVs died. If you have to put something on, it's a fad, nothing more. Once the PS 10(X) comes out with a direct cerebral cortex implant, then that will be huuuge‼️



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Marach on 19 January 2018
habam said:
Marach said:

It’s not what we say. We are saying that some games are not fit for VR, and will never be. Gamers are as varied as there games. Saying that every games would have a VR. version is non-sense. And if you have games that have a 2D version with vr option, then you nullify the initial statement that say the the ps5 would be VR only. 

We are not saying that VR is bad, just that we don’t to play 100% of the time in VR

Like I already said. Even if we say those games exist and you cant transit them into VR without heavily changing the way they play (im no game designer so I dont know that).

 

There is still the possibility to play those 2D games in a virual cinema on a screen as big as you want. Curved if you want. With your buddies sitting next to you if you want (even when they live on the other site of the planet). You can also play them in any enviroment you want. 

Here is a app that already does that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFk-zLbc4s8

 

Like I said in terms of Fifa. Play it in the stadium. Your in the stadium (maybe even with your friends or thousands strangers or npcs whatever). It just looks like when you go in the stadium in RL. But you can control the players in the field because your just playing Fifa. Thats something VR allows you to do.

 

 

Dont forget that we will se even much, much more advanced apps like this in the future.

Ok, I get it, but seriously, I don’t need to play South Park, cities skyline, rayman, etc on a 10 foot high virtual screen. And playing the game on a tv emulator while there’s a real tv in front of me seem superfluous. And like I said before, personally, I cannot play completely cut out of my environment for that long. Yeah I might be sitting with people at the other side of the world, but what about the ones I live with ? My kids or my wife may want to ask me something, or I need to at least have an eye on my kids to be sure that they don’t destroy the house. There still two players games that exist and will continue to exist, so what, you buy two vr headset ? They will cost more than regular controller. Games like just dance have appeal for some people even if you don’t play them, and they would be just dangerous to play with vr...



LivingMetal on 19 January 2018
habam said:
LipeJJ said:

This thread and OP's attitude are hilarious.

Btw, obviously not. Sony is not crazy and wouldn't want another PSP Go on their hands (a stance where they tried and risked something new/advanced, but ultimately failed because the market wasn't ready).

I bet VR will be a more accessible and better experience on PS5, but Sony wouldn't want to limit their mass appeal to only people that care about VR. There are people that tried and didn't like it, there are people with motion sickness and there are people who would not want to pay more $$$ for something they don't care that much.

Every game being a VR experience would limit graphics A LOT as well. I doubt Sony would want that. The only way to avoid it would be by making an extremely powerful and expensive console. I also doubt Sony would want that.

So... no. I'm 99% sure this won't be the case next generation.

Well Nintendo did something similar with the Wii. Forced Motion Controls. Worked pretty good. But we will see.

Im pretty sure anytime in the future VR wont even be tethered to a playstation at all anymore but be a standalone device (so people can just buy a VR device). Already coming but the tech isnt there yet.

Nintendo didn't force anything.  They promoted motion controls, but "forced" is inaccurate at best.  And even though motion control technology had improved with the Wii motion plus and the PS Move, conventional console control is still very dominant today without any major strides in improvement and employment of motion controls.



Xen on 19 January 2018

No, and I don't see why anyone would think that.



Errorist76 on 19 January 2018
Marach said:

 Games like just dance have appeal for some people even if you don’t play them, and they would be just dangerous to play with vr...

Just yesterday I played a demo of this during a VR presentation at the school I work at. It was quite exhausting but a lot of fun, especially for those watching ;D

http://store.steampowered.com/app/422860/Holodance/



Marach on 19 January 2018
habam said:
LipeJJ said:

This thread and OP's attitude are hilarious.

Btw, obviously not. Sony is not crazy and wouldn't want another PSP Go on their hands (a stance where they tried and risked something new/advanced, but ultimately failed because the market wasn't ready).

I bet VR will be a more accessible and better experience on PS5, but Sony wouldn't want to limit their mass appeal to only people that care about VR. There are people that tried and didn't like it, there are people with motion sickness and there are people who would not want to pay more $$$ for something they don't care that much.

Every game being a VR experience would limit graphics A LOT as well. I doubt Sony would want that. The only way to avoid it would be by making an extremely powerful and expensive console. I also doubt Sony would want that.

So... no. I'm 99% sure this won't be the case next generation.

Well Nintendo did something similar with the Wii. Forced Motion Controls. Worked pretty good. But we will see.

Im pretty sure anytime in the future VR wont even be tethered to a playstation at all anymore but be a standalone device (so people can just buy a VR device). Already coming but the tech isnt there yet.

Oh yeah, motion control worked so well that they mostly don’t use it anymore. And there was a lot of games that didn’t used motion controls, and there was the pro controller that bypassed motion control totally. So I don’t see the forcing there...