Convienence, hate checking to see if my game is capable with my PC, too lazy to ever upgrade the insides, don't care about specs, PC has only a handful of exclusives worth playing imo, and PCs are just boring. Why? I dont know, I dont care, and will not provide backup to claim because Im lazy

Feels nice to be on the couch and play some games with friends irl. Can't do that on PC.

To avoid tendinitis or carpal tunnel syndrome, it's important for us to understand what causes it. A M/KB makes your arm do movements it is not supposed to thousands of times. Mainly:

- You hold the mouse with your wrist resting. So you move a lot just the wrist. This joint is not supposed to be used that much in a short sequence. The normal movement is to mostly move your arm and just use the wrist slightly. When you use a laptop on your lap (yes, bad for the neck), you will notice that you use the trackpad mostly by moving the whole arm instead of just the wrist. Use a laptop on a desk or a regular M/KB and you will see how your movement behavior change.

- The wrist was made to stay straight most of the time. To use a mouse, it is always in an arc. For a keyboard, you have to flex it slightly because the keys are on a straight line while your arms are at an angle. This is a complete slaughter for your carpal tunnel.

Things that can improve:

- For the neck, the monitor should be at eye level.

- For the hands, the desk should be lower. Or you can set up your chair a bit higher. That will avoid having you resting your wrists on the table.

- Getting more ergonomic KB and M. MS has the amazing Natural Keyboard (https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-us/products/keyboards/natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000/b2m-00012). You can also go for more ergonomic mouses.

I guess GT Sport still has a limited user base. Playing with people from far away is generally terrible. I live in Brazil, but I'm currently in the EU for a few months, and playing with my Brazilian friends is a lag fest. Anyway, games like UC4 could split the userbase without issues, it's a 10M seller anyway.

What I do with UC4 is that when I notice a party I just quit and look for other match. No point in trying to fight, unless it's a pretty bad party. Resistance 2 was probably the most fun shooter I've played, I loved the 60 player team DM. The weapons were the best ever. Sony should remaster the Resistance trilogy with the MP. Day 1 for me.

And you keep on JUSTIFYING WoW as if the way they run their company was any of your business. Your business is to get the best deal which you don't cause you must pay a subscription to that game. So you justify them but I DO NOT justify paying for online gaming access as the PS+ or Xbox Live do. That's why PC gaming needs to be criticized from the outside cause you PC Gamers ALWAYS keep on justifying anything that happens in the world of PC. (And before you say anything on this, let me say that I KNOW, it's not ONLY PC gamers that do that. But you guys are experts in this department)

AGAIN why should I know the pros of the other side, let me write this in cap so maybe you can remember: I DON'T PLAY ON PC, so how am I expected to know the pros? All I need to do is acknowledge the pros. If something is positive about PC's I'm FINE with it, can you understand that my friend? If only you could be fine TOO with the pros of console gaming, you don't need to know them if you don't play on console, just acknowledge them. But to do that you need to come down from your PCMR pedestal and look at the world from a different point of view. Fake charts about how PC gaming is cheap and console gaming is super expensive in your sig are NOT going to help you do that.

As for my sig it's a reference to Rick's philosophy from the show Rick and Morty and it has absolutely nothing to do with our discussion. So if you're going to try and justify your anti-console PCMR sig with my gaming unrelated sig, it's going to be a dead end for your argument.

You said: "it's about the OP topic, not PCMR".

The OP topic was fine, I gave my opinion on my first post on this thread in accordance to the OP topic... Then YOU started this argument cause you did not like that someone talked about PC flaws, which I must repeat AGAIN, goes in accordance with the topic of this thread.

And finally, on the topic of non-civility, I'm not sure what you mean? I'm having a normal discussion. I simply don't let you get away with the notion that PC is above the rest of us. That's all my first post was about and that's all my subsequent replies to your posts are all about.

Cheers mate

Not sure why Blizzard have to turn WoW into a horrid F2P MMO, or a completely free one, since that would be a game that wouldn't make them money, and it still isn't akin to a multiplayer mode, since WoW is a massively open world RPG, not a console multiplayer system service, or Netflix for that matter.

Justifying everything?, you mean like how you're justifying the cons, mentioning none of the pros and calling it a day, while taking a good chunk of the thread to talk about my sig?.

You've done it again, you've managed to bring up another "we do it, but those guys are the absolute worst" type of arguments.

And yes, yes there is some hostility, because for a good chunk of our conversation, you have been putting a lot of focus on just my signature and involving WoW as a sideline topic, to make it appear as if we're not already treading into off topic territory. The thread is about the reasons, not the signatures, not a meme.

And for the last time I was on topic until you replied to me because you don't like me being on topic: The topic being why do I feel console gaming is better than PC gaming, I said why and you don't like a console peasant exposing PC flaws because (and now it's obvious) you are a PC Master Race believer. If you can't take it that people see the flaws in PC's, too bad for you. And do you plan to repeat a million times that I don't mention the pros of PC when I explained clearly why SEVERAL times? Cause no point in me repeating it again since you will simply ignore it AGAIN.

If you did not get it yet, you won't get it now. PC is not perfect and I'm glad I did what I did cause your reaction proves PC criticism is a necessary thing, you know just so you guys don't get too high on your PCMR pedestal. And if you consider hostility when people are forthright about PC's flaws then too bad for you my friend. If you don't mind being hostile towards console gamer don't complain when console gamers call you out on your PCMR BS.

Because i know that i'm pretty much good, for the next 8-10 years, with a console. I also can sit in my comfy chair, and enjoy my games, on my 55" OLED. I also never cared for using a keyboard and mouse.

Skyrim VR is one good reason! Just had another epic session with no interruptions, no graphics tweaking, no wondering if the settings could be better or whether the fps might drop with too much oversampling. No worries of slowdown with certain effects, it just works. No messing with mods, ini files, controller configurations, 100% fully immersive play time.

Gaming is more relaxing when you stop worrying how you could make it look a little better or what you can tweak or add to the experience. Console gaming, the solution to the paradox of choice.

I can say that this is spot on. Really, I work the whole day messing up with a PC and developing stuff. If I have to arrive late at home and lose an hour trying to tune a game, I would rather watch Netflix or sleep. My PS4 just works.

I arrive home, do my stuff (dinner, etc) and then I just grab a DS4, press the PS button and pop a game in. I'm playing a game in basically a minute.

The problems with this thread is PC gamers trying to attack everyone in a thread that wasn't asking them anything. OP wanted to know the opinion of people that are mainly consoles gamers. These guys are just trying to justify the tons of cash they expend on hardware, with the tons of bugs they seem to ignore.

exclusives :)