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Hiku said:
b00moscone said:

The first you talk about i addressed in another reply, but it's certainly not as if i'm ignoring or not seeing this, i just think it's a matter of time, while with western support we pretty much know what games we're going to get, or lack thereof.

For the highlighted part though, evaluating the Switch's success in Japan and pretty much WW, i can't see Japan ignoring the Switch. Of course, Japan does have some big-scale projects and games that are running off the back of stronger hardware, but i can see some developers either making the effort to port it or making games tailor-made for it, or a multiplat game covering PS4/Switch. This isn't even mentioning that Switch will fill in the gap left by handhelds, which of course is very popular in Japan, and the 3DS and Vita over their lifetime have gotten many games from Japanese 3rd parties. No doubt will those developers move over to Switch.

Well we have precedence for the bolded with the Wii. As immensely popular as it was, every major Japanese mainline franchise generally ignored it. There were a few exceptions, but usually the third party support wouldn't be for the main big franchises, but spin offs or specific games designed for Wii.
However, this is concerning console games. One area where I expect Switch will differ from Wii in this regard are portable titles. The would-be-3DS games, after 3DS is dead. We're going to see Phoenix Wright for Switch, and games like Bravely Default, a lower budget Kingdom Hearts, etc.
But when it comes to Japanese games that appear on home console, we'll pretty much always see the PS4 logo, but I don't know if we'll see the Switch logo on them significantly more often than for Wii or WiiU.

I get where you're coming from, but i think with the example you gave with the Wii, i think developers were put off by the fact that, while of course the Wii sold very well, a lot of owners would get it for Wii Sports, maybe Just Dance etc. I think it's because of that that sales would be lower than expected of the user base, due to it's lack of an active user base.

However, with console games for the Switch, i do agree with you to an extent since the PS4 would give the most creative freedom from more power, but i think we could expect some projects with the Switch hardware in mind, given that it takes off, which it looks to be able to do (If Nintendo gets themselves sorted with stock =_=). I do expect though a good amount of games to miss it such as Yakuza to miss Switch due to that limitation in power.



 

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Of course you want all 3rd parties. Who doesn't?



It will suffer the same problem as the WiiU nothing will change that, but at least Nintendo decided to stop fooling around with their 1st party with a true new Mario 3d adventure game,The Metroid game that everybody wanted,and a console focused Pokemon RPG developed by GameFreak.

They would be wise to port as many 3DS games as they can on the Switch and make em HD.



Yes, but to begin you must actually start. So far they have less third party support than the Wii U at this time in its life I believe. Indie third parties do not really count. They are not getting CoD, Final Fantasy, or any of the dozen games the PS4 and X1 get monthly so far.

So lets start first Reggie, then move on to every game.



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I feel 2018 will be a better year for 3rd parties. Just put yourself in their shoes, 1-2 years ago the Wii U was selling like shit and they had no idea the Switch would do like it's doing now. Of course nothing was put into development. Just be patient people, Nintendo alone has us covered for this year.



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b00moscone said:
Hiku said:

Well we have precedence for the bolded with the Wii. As immensely popular as it was, every major Japanese mainline franchise generally ignored it. There were a few exceptions, but usually the third party support wouldn't be for the main big franchises, but spin offs or specific games designed for Wii.
However, this is concerning console games. One area where I expect Switch will differ from Wii in this regard are portable titles. The would-be-3DS games, after 3DS is dead. We're going to see Phoenix Wright for Switch, and games like Bravely Default, a lower budget Kingdom Hearts, etc.
But when it comes to Japanese games that appear on home console, we'll pretty much always see the PS4 logo, but I don't know if we'll see the Switch logo on them significantly more often than for Wii or WiiU.

I get where you're coming from, but i think with the example you gave with the Wii, i think developers were put off by the fact that, while of course the Wii sold very well, a lot of owners would get it for Wii Sports, maybe Just Dance etc. I think it's because of that that sales would be lower than expected of the user base, due to it's lack of an active user base.

However, with console games for the Switch, i do agree with you to an extent since the PS4 would give the most creative freedom from more power, but i think we could expect some projects with the Switch hardware in mind, given that it takes off, which it looks to be able to do (If Nintendo gets themselves sorted with stock =_=). I do expect though a good amount of games to miss it such as Yakuza to miss Switch due to that limitation in power.

Right. I do think things will be better for Switch compared to Wii and WiiU in that regard. Just not a whole lot or close to Reggie's statement on "We want all third party games" if we assume that's PS4 level support. It's something Nintendo can take steps towards adressing during R&D for their systems. But I also understand the choices they decided to go with. A portable system as powerful as XBO would be too expensive and drain battery too quickly, etc.




“We want every high-quality game to have an opportunity to be played on Nintendo Switch,"


He's talking about high-quality games. Which excludes 95 % of third party games on the market.



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vivster said:
I also want a lot of things. That's why I don't release hardware that 3rd parties don't like.

There's no "like" in a business world. They just don't see money to be made. Falsely imo, but that's what it is.



OdinHades said:

“We want every high-quality game to have an opportunity to be played on Nintendo Switch,"


He's talking about high-quality games. Which excludes 95 % of third party games on the market.

Typical Nintendo fanboy defense mode. I used to be like this too. This statement is of course plain bullshit and highly subjective. There are TONS of high quality third party games out there not coming to any Nintendo console. For example, even though I hate GTA will all my heart, I've to accept there are millions of people enjoying that crap everyday. You need to give your audience choices, LOTS of choices. Right now Switch has only a few overpriced third party games that are garbage like Bomberbam and SF2 but those games are suddenly praised into heaven. Talking about double standards much.