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maxleresistant said:
b00moscone said:

*Western games, i know it's just not you but generalising 3rd parties to just western developers is irksome, especially in this case since Japanese support for the Switch is a different matter.

But yeah, kind of a no-brainer, Reggie didn't really need to state this

Okay, so where is Metal Gear Survive, Kingdom Hearts 3, Dragon Ball fighter Z, Tekken 7, Ni no Kuni II, Monster Hunter World, the new naruto game, Ace Combat 7, Nier automata, the new PES, and so on...

Yes it's worse in the west, but there is nothing to be proud when it comes to Switch third party support in japan.

Well, taking a look at your list, while i don't want to generalise, almost all these games have been in development likely quite an amount before development kits were sent out for the Switch, meaning a Switch version wasn't integrated into development. Plus, i imagine right now developers are still being cautious, as porting some of these games may require a good amount of investment, though seeing the Switch's success especially in Japan, that's very likely to change, since companies can't ignore such a big opportunity to make money. In cases such a Ni No Kuni II, that's developed with exclusivity in mind, MHW too if you want to believe the rumours (Though it's likely Switch will get a new MH anyways).

But yeah, i'd say that for Japanese support, it's a matter of when, not if.  This is unlike Western developers, where ambition for grahpics and technology would make it much more likely to rule out a Switch port.



 

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I think that the "high-quality" part is worth noticing too.



me too Reggie.

we need third party games.. but not Capcom.. they have been so shit!!!



Switch!!!

I remember him implying the Wii U was more interesting because it was "different" by not having the third party support the others had...



b00moscone said:
maxleresistant said:

Okay, so where is Metal Gear Survive, Kingdom Hearts 3, Dragon Ball fighter Z, Tekken 7, Ni no Kuni II, Monster Hunter World, the new naruto game, Ace Combat 7, Nier automata, the new PES, and so on...

Yes it's worse in the west, but there is nothing to be proud when it comes to Switch third party support in japan.

Well, taking a look at your list, while i don't want to generalise, almost all these games have been in development likely quite an amount before development kits were sent out for the Switch, meaning a Switch version wasn't integrated into development. Plus, i imagine right now developers are still being cautious, as porting some of these games may require a good amount of investment, though seeing the Switch's success especially in Japan, that's very likely to change, since companies can't ignore such a big opportunity to make money. In cases such a Ni No Kuni II, that's developed with exclusivity in mind, MHW too if you want to believe the rumours (Though it's likely Switch will get a new MH anyways).

But yeah, i'd say that for Japanese support, it's a matter of when, not if.  This is unlike Western developers, where ambition for grahpics and technology would make it much more likely to rule out a Switch port.

That's whyI said that 2018 will probably be better.

But even if those games started development a long time ago, a port takes 6 month to a year. So unless they discovered the Switch last week, I think they are just being cautious.



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maxleresistant said:
b00moscone said:

Well, taking a look at your list, while i don't want to generalise, almost all these games have been in development likely quite an amount before development kits were sent out for the Switch, meaning a Switch version wasn't integrated into development. Plus, i imagine right now developers are still being cautious, as porting some of these games may require a good amount of investment, though seeing the Switch's success especially in Japan, that's very likely to change, since companies can't ignore such a big opportunity to make money. In cases such a Ni No Kuni II, that's developed with exclusivity in mind, MHW too if you want to believe the rumours (Though it's likely Switch will get a new MH anyways).

But yeah, i'd say that for Japanese support, it's a matter of when, not if.  This is unlike Western developers, where ambition for grahpics and technology would make it much more likely to rule out a Switch port.

That's whyI said that 2018 will probably be better.

But even if those games started development a long time ago, a port takes 6 month to a year. So unless they discovered the Switch last week, I think they are just being cautious.

Oh yeah, you did, apologies for missing that!

Indeed, i think after the Wii U they do have every right to be cautious, though i think there will be some companies at least looking into it at this point.



 

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So maybe they should support and market that rainway app.
Although it limits the range of switch to a WiFi connection (well, not much different for online play), and need a pc, would be the easy way to have lots of third party software playable on switch.



I feel you Reggie - but someone at Nintendo decided, again, to make a console that is not really capable of what you say you want.



b00moscone said:
maxleresistant said:

That's whyI said that 2018 will probably be better.

But even if those games started development a long time ago, a port takes 6 month to a year. So unless they discovered the Switch last week, I think they are just being cautious.

Oh yeah, you did, apologies for missing that!

Indeed, i think after the Wii U they do have every right to be cautious, though i think there will be some companies at least looking into it at this point.

It doesn't look like the Switch is going to end up like the WiiU, that's good, even if I don't like a lot of things about the switch. Someday I'll buy a cheap one.



maxleresistant said:
b00moscone said:

Oh yeah, you did, apologies for missing that!

Indeed, i think after the Wii U they do have every right to be cautious, though i think there will be some companies at least looking into it at this point.

It doesn't look like the Switch is going to end up like the WiiU, that's good, even if I don't like a lot of things about the switch. Someday I'll buy a cheap one.

Yeah, I reckon in the end Switch will get it's own form of 3rd party support in Japan, i can also see multiplats covering Switch and PS4 akin to those PS4/Vita games, except the hardware limitation is much less severe, so it'll be interesting to see what pops up. Western support is =_=, but who knows!

And it would be nice if Nintendo releases a cheaper version, perhaps with fixed controllers, just for the people who want to play its games, and/or want a smaller alternative.



 

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