No one is saying there should be unchecked, unlimited immigration. I think we understand that there must be a controlled pace and greater emphasis on integration. Obviously too I think we need to distinquish betwen the issues of radical terrorists and say people from India, China, and other areas who aren't even affiliated with any of that. Not everyone should be lumped into one category. 

Agreed as a species we need to develop better living conditions than what we have today, 2/3 of the world should not be living in crippling, abject poverty and I can say that even as a priveleged, fairly wealthy individual. It's not a good situation to be in. I don't blame people for wanting a better life, it is the quintessential of all human traits if you study our evolution, it's why we've gone to every corner of the globe, because people have always been migrating from regions looking for a better life for their kids. 

Obviously we need in today's world a common sense approach, and yes border security is part of that, I never said it wasn't. That said, being a hostile asshole to people who only want the bread crumbs off a priveleged few's table is not the answer in my book either. There needs to be a middle path here where we do give oppurtunities to some, but there also probably needs to be an understanding here that if you're moving to a new country it's incumbent on you to integrate. 

Also more Americans are not on welfare because of immigrants. It's because of an incredibly disparity in wealth distribution that exploded with the Ronald Reagan era of massive tax breaks for the rich, which then never trickled down (because as it turns out, rich people are exceedingly good as keeping as much of the "trickle down" for themselves, go figure). 

I'm just saying be careful of who you're getting into bed with, make no mistake a lot of these "alt-right-ers" are just rebranded Neo-Nazis and where they want to go is an equal or worse nightmare because it's devoid of any love or understanding, and history has shown us where that bus goes ... it always drives itself off a cliff. So I would say think about that before you choose to willingly get on that bus. 

What is this nonsense?  Elaborate.  About the only continent Europe beats for "peacefulness" is Africa AFAIK. 

You forgot about Poland! 

Based on what I see most of the people on the Alt-right are working-class people are worried about issues of national security, terrorism and jobs and who just don't care anymore if they get labelled racist by the mainstream media and elites.  Most do not hate people because of the color of their skin nor think that non-whites are genetically inferior but rather their concerns with immigration are primarily based on a fear of terrorism and their culture's inability to assimilate a large number of migrants.  It's a reasonable thing to be afraid for the survival of one's society and when the left just labels the majority of these people as being racist and deplorable it just shuts down any debate and chance for common ground.  In fact doing this kind of thing is exactly what will create more neo-nazi's.  A lot of people on the Alt-right want peace in the middle east and they want to have hardworking immigrants entering their country, it's just that they want national security to also be on the forefront.  Labelling the Alt-Right as mostly being neo-nazi's is a simplistic answer to a complex problem, it's a shame that the left won't work with the Alt-Right and try to understand their concerns instead of just labelling them as racist with no discussion or open debate of the issues.  The Alt Right is a growing group and they are not going away, drawing a line in the sand like this can lead to civil war.

That made me giggle a bit..

I dont know man, the alt-right has very few positive things to say about non-whites. Even Asians (Chinese in particular), once considered the model minority, are becoming targets of their ire.

lol What does the alt right say about Indians lol...

Overall, American didn't get on welfare because of Reagan, or immigration. They got on welfare because their elite lost any interest for their middle class, and made policy against their interest regarding immigration, taxes, offshoring, trade, finance (subprimes, etc.), wars and so many other things. It's so bad IMO that any decent politician would have to undo about anything that has been done in the last 25 years. We are heading in a very wrong, violent direction, and that changed my view on where the risks are. I tend to believe the mainstream media are again wrong or lying in their narrative about alt-right, and that most people are just people like me.

As for other countries, I believe most of what we can do is through foreign policy (and in many cases it could mean doing nothing rather than doing more) and fair trade, rather than through immigration. Btw, I have been in China, and you can tell where the money has gone, that's splendid, airports and roads, just as Trump says. On the other hand, I was really shocked when I saw streets and roads to NY, that's something I've never seen in any developped country. So we can't really tell there is no transfer of wealth already going on.

Imo the reason why rural whites are so pissed is that they have no welfare system to rely on.


Here in Canada in the East Coast Unemployment is well over 10% and people work 6 months on the ships catching fish and get 6 months unemployment insurance.

If those people did not get that, they likely be bitter and angry.

Imo Hillary and democrats went like parrot heads saying Unemployment is 5%.

bullshit the economy is not at Clinton or Reagan levels at all....

I disagree in part. It is not just that. I think a lot of americans, and people from all the world can see they are little by little losing their most basic liberties in the hands of the PC new offensive.

It is in my my mind the most obscene thing about SJW culture.

They've convinced the media, politicians, even just regular well meaning people, the entire world that their nonsense hypocritical bigotry and moral grandstanding is the "correct" and "progressive" way to view the world. It's the fact that SJW's have convinced so many of their rhetoric's sacrosanctness that scares me the most.

We can see this hipocrisy at service of Globalism and in real life we see our land suffer for the sake of profit. 

And well meaning but blindsided people attacking us and wanting us to day because we hinder their promissed Utopia from happening. But George Soros is no gatekeeper from heaven, he promisses paradise but will deliver hell on Earth.