What is the Alt-Right?

[Soundwave]

Norris2k said:

Soundwave said:

I never called "all" people of any ethnicity anything. I am saying generally speaking people in the West are fairly priveleged.  If you have travelled the world, you probably would know this. And sure obesity is a massive problem in America.

You can have whatever opinion you want, lol. No one's stopping you. 

Personally "alt-right" is just a rebranding of white supremasit/neo-nazi movements. 

I am a "rich" person by the way, but now do I get co-opted into being an "elite" or whatever bullshit the "alt-right" (turd reich?) comes up with?

My personal world view is (how about this) I treat people like individuals. I don't lump them into groups due to skin color. Mind blowing concept, I know. People within an immediate family aren't even comparable, we see huge variance between siblings from the same family for example, yet we still see fit to judge people on ethnic groupings? What if we did this also for height (tall people are better than short people). I mean where does it stop before it gets so ridiculously stupid. 

Just for reference the white supremasist movement that is tied to "alt-right" (uh, turd reich?) also considers inter-breeded children as "mongrels", so before you huff and puff their virtues, think about that next time you espouse their virtues. It's all fun and games when it's not your particular ethnicity being picked on, but you think many of these people will look favorably on you (someone of non-Nordic/Germanic descent) with what they could call a "half-breed" daughter? 

Well, in term of travels, for example in India I met very nice, clever and helpful individuals, but I also saw a lot of average IT engineers living in nice appartements in enclosed areas with guards and walls, they come from very wealthy families, and have the belief that poverty for others is deserved God punition, not something to fix. Still I would not call any of them fat asses, immature. The poverty is unbearable in some places, very sad thing to see kids with no chance in life. But a big part of this problem is culture (religious beliefs, ethnical biases), education, and you can't just ignore that and see only the negative in white americans.

It's important to pick the good guys, blend new immigrants smoothly with local population and culture, take time, check backgrounds, restore borders. Whoever is ready to name call white people, call racists or dinosaurs anyone that have this common sense and balanced approach is as much crazy as the alt-right people you are talking about, because they are just supremacist in disguise that put white people on the low end of the ranking. You don't even think a white american family that has been there for 300 years has a say on limitating immigration. If you see someone telling an old black lady that she is a forced labor immigrant and tho has no say regarding immigration, that her opinion is an African perspective, and that she is lucky enough to be there, you would not be horrified ?

There are crazy opinions in alt-right also, still alt-right is right when they tell there is a massive propaganda calling people racist anyone against a level of immigration they consider destructive for themselves and their countries. You want me to pick a side, then well, I'm with people that don't have a crazy, unbalanced and destructive ideology (white supremacists and people that think only a white supremacist would see a problem in a massive immigration from poor countries). Let's love each other, including ourselves. There is a path, somewhat slow, for a better life for everyone. But if we don't care about the impact of immigration what we are heading for is a nightmare. The migrant crisis in Europe is not gonna make people more tolerant.

No one is saying there should be unchecked, unlimited immigration. I think we understand that there must be a controlled pace and greater emphasis on integration. Obviously too I think we need to distinquish betwen the issues of radical terrorists and say people from India, China, and other areas who aren't even affiliated with any of that. Not everyone should be lumped into one category. 

Agreed as a species we need to develop better living conditions than what we have today, 2/3 of the world should not be living in crippling, abject poverty and I can say that even as a priveleged, fairly wealthy individual. It's not a good situation to be in. I don't blame people for wanting a better life, it is the quintessential of all human traits if you study our evolution, it's why we've gone to every corner of the globe, because people have always been migrating from regions looking for a better life for their kids. 

Obviously we need in today's world a common sense approach, and yes border security is part of that, I never said it wasn't. That said, being a hostile asshole to people who only want the bread crumbs off a priveleged few's table is not the answer in my book either. There needs to be a middle path here where we do give oppurtunities to some, but there also probably needs to be an understanding here that if you're moving to a new country it's incumbent on you to integrate. 

Also more Americans are not on welfare because of immigrants. It's because of an incredibly disparity in wealth distribution that exploded with the Ronald Reagan era of massive tax breaks for the rich, which then never trickled down (because as it turns out, rich people are exceedingly good as keeping as much of the "trickle down" for themselves, go figure). 

I'm just saying be careful of who you're getting into bed with, make no mistake a lot of these "alt-right-ers" are just rebranded Neo-Nazis and where they want to go is an equal or worse nightmare because it's devoid of any love or understanding, and history has shown us where that bus goes ... it always drives itself off a cliff. So I would say think about that before you choose to willingly get on that bus.