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What do you think of Stephen Curry?

Incredible 50 29.41%
 
Spectacular 25 14.71%
 
Unreal 27 15.88%
 
Overrated 16 9.41%
 
Small 1 0.59%
 
Hyped-up. 4 2.35%
 
Best in the World 21 12.35%
 
A Bad Shot taker 2 1.18%
 
Pretty Good 13 7.65%
 
Meh Give me (insert player here) 11 6.47%
 
Total:170

Currry isn't that special I say it again it took him seven years for his scoring to reach elite status (over 2000 points in one season).  All the people that I listed and a couple more since its incomplete where elite scorers before Curry.  If he really was that special he would have elevated his game to where it is now in less then five seasons.



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Chris Hu said:
outlawauron said:

But what about last season? When he was named MVP and got a ring.

Last year was a good season but not a great season.  The best player doesn't win the the MVP all the time if that would be the case then Jordan would have at least six instead of five.  James Harden should have been MVP since he really had the best season last year.

If the best player won MVP every year, Jordan would have won it like 11 times lol. 



AlfredoTurkey said:
Chris Hu said:

Last year was a good season but not a great season.  The best player doesn't win the the MVP all the time if that would be the case then Jordan would have at least six instead of five.  James Harden should have been MVP since he really had the best season last year.

If the best player won MVP every year, Jordan would have won it like 11 times lol. 

Lets not go overboard more like seven or eight that is also the amount of titles he could have won if he didn't have two semi retirements.



Chris Hu said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

If the best player won MVP every year, Jordan would have won it like 11 times lol. 

Lets not go overboard more like seven or eight that is also the amount of titles he could have won if he didn't have two semi retirements.

Jordan, even during the 80's, was the best player in the game. When Bird and Magic were winning, Jordan was the best individual player in the game. During the Piston's reign, Cuck Daly said that Jordan was so good, that he was "embarrassing the league". So, when you discount his rookie reason, the broken foot season, the quarter season when he came back and those two seasons on the Wizards due to age, that's at least 10 seasons where he was the unquestionable "best player" in the league. So if we're giving the MVP to the best player, he'd have at least 10.



AlfredoTurkey said:
Chris Hu said:

Lets not go overboard more like seven or eight that is also the amount of titles he could have won if he didn't have two semi retirements.

Jordan, even during the 80's, was the best player in the game. When Bird and Magic were winning, Jordan was the best individual player in the game. During the Piston's reign, Cuck Daly said that Jordan was so good, that he was "embarrassing the league". So, when you discount his rookie reason, the broken foot season, the quarter season when he came back and those two seasons on the Wizards due to age, that's at least 10 seasons where he was the unquestionable "best player" in the league. So if we're giving the MVP to the best player, he'd have at least 10.

Well even though the best player doesn't win all the time at least it better then NFL MVP award where you almost have no chance of winning it if you play on the defensive side.



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Chris Hu said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Jordan, even during the 80's, was the best player in the game. When Bird and Magic were winning, Jordan was the best individual player in the game. During the Piston's reign, Cuck Daly said that Jordan was so good, that he was "embarrassing the league". So, when you discount his rookie reason, the broken foot season, the quarter season when he came back and those two seasons on the Wizards due to age, that's at least 10 seasons where he was the unquestionable "best player" in the league. So if we're giving the MVP to the best player, he'd have at least 10.

Well even though the best player doesn't win all the time at least it better then NFL MVP award where you almost have no chance of winning it if you play on the defensive side.

Meh, "MVP" in all major US sports is based on politics within the given year more than performance. Harper had the best stats in MLB last year but his team couldn't win a game against a little league squad. The NBA uses it's MVP award more for promotion. If the deserving player wins it, it's mostly coincidence... hence Jordan only winning 5.



AlfredoTurkey said:
Chris Hu said:

Well even though the best player doesn't win all the time at least it better then NFL MVP award where you almost have no chance of winning it if you play on the defensive side.

Meh, "MVP" in all major US sports is based on politics within the given year more than performance. Harper had the best stats in MLB last year but his team couldn't win a game against a little league squad. The NBA uses it's MVP award more for promotion. If the deserving player wins it, it's mostly coincidence... hence Jordan only winning 5.

I don't really follow MLB since I think baseball as a sport is a complete snoozefest so I don't know how acurately the MLB MVP actually represents the best player each year.  One of the main criterias for each sports MVP award is that you are on winning team if you are the best player in the league on a loosing team there is no chance you will win the MVP award.



Chris Hu said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Meh, "MVP" in all major US sports is based on politics within the given year more than performance. Harper had the best stats in MLB last year but his team couldn't win a game against a little league squad. The NBA uses it's MVP award more for promotion. If the deserving player wins it, it's mostly coincidence... hence Jordan only winning 5.

I don't really follow MLB since I think baseball as a sport is a complete snoozefest so I don't know how acurately the MLB MVP actually represents the best player each year.  One of the main criterias for each sports MVP award is that you are on winning team if you are the best player in the league on a loosing team there is no chance you will win the MVP award.

I have always thought MVP should be given out to which ever player would go #1 in a fantasy draft within said year. I think each GM from each city should vote for the award. No one should be allowed to vote for their home player. Which ever player ends up being the most coveted player is the MVP... hence... most VALUABLE player. 



Chris Hu said:

Currry isn't that special I say it again it took him seven years for his scoring to reach elite status (over 2000 points in one season).  All the people that I listed and a couple more since its incomplete where elite scorers before Curry.  If he really was that special he would have elevated his game to where it is now in less then five seasons.

a) Constant ankle injuries are a pain in butt aren't they? Warriors fans and Steph know better than anyone. These past 2 years, his ankles have been healthy, not counting Russell Westbrook stepping on it in the game against the Thunder (which Steph not only came back from, but tore them and their fans' hearts to shreds.) 
b) Isiah Thomas and Kevin Garnett never scored over 2000 points in one season, you're going to tell me they're not elite scorers?
Tim Duncan only did it one time, so I guys he's just as elite of a scorer as Steph is. And since soooo many guys have done it before Steph did, than I guess 2000 points in a season isn't that elite after all.
c) As for your other comment in regards to the MVP and James Harden, either one of them could've gotten it and both would've been absolutely deserving of it, just like D-Wade and Kobe were deserving of the 2009 MVP that went to LeBron, who deserved as well, or LeBron was deserving of the 2011 MVP that went to Derrick Rose, who deserved it as well. There can only be one MVP, and that's awarded to the guy that is most valuable to his team and organization. Without Steph, the Warriors fall out of the top 4 seeds in the West, they struggle to make the playoffs, they don't win the championship, and they sure as hell don't get a sniff at 73 wins. 
Steph is special because he is doing things on the court that nobody has ever done before and/or to his degree. He is REVOLUTIONIZING the game of basketball before our very eyes. Now, you don't have to be a 6'6"-6'9" athletic monster with incredible leaping ability like Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, or Kobe Bryant where you can shoot over the top of everyone and use your supreme athleticism and physical stature to get the best of defenders. You can be a 6'3" point guard with a deadly jumpshot and still be not only the best basketball player on the planet, but a CHAMPION. LeBron, Durant, and Kobe were following the paths that guys like Magic, Larry, and Michael set before. Steph didn't follow those paths, he forged his OWN path. 
But don't take my word for it (or Allen Iverson's for that matter), let's hear what some of the game's legends have to say.
Steve Nash:
"It's an evolution of the game. I hate to bring myself into this but he's taking what I did, to another level. He's doing things I never did. The game's evolving and it's beautiful to see because it's about skill and dedication, commitment and inspiring a whole new generation. It's awesome to see and it'd going to be fascinating to see what the next evolution will be because of Steph."
Kevin Garnett:
"Like Michael Jordan was a whole other thing, this guy is his own thing. It's beautiful for basketball."
Gregg Popovich in 2013 after a game, 2 years before Steph ascended the NBA throne.
"It was like playing against Michael Jordan." So Pop knew before a lot of people what Steph was capable of and the potential he has.
Kobe Bryant:
"I see a calmness about him. And I think it's something a lot of players don't understand. It's going to be hard for the fans to understand, because the players don't get it. There's this serious calmness that's extremely deadly He's not up, he's not down, he's not contemplating what happened before, he's not thinking of what's next, he's just there. When a player has the skills, and has trained himself to have the skills to be able to shoot, dribble left or right, etc. And then you MIX that with this calmness and poise. Then you have a serious, serious problem on your hands." One of the greatest assassin's in the history of the game and top 10 players ever, seriously talking about how deadly this guy is!
And this was before he blew up Twitter on Saturday with his game-winner, which drew praise from guys like:
LeBron, D-Wade, Dirk, Damian Lillard, Demar Derozan, Porzingas, EARVIN MAGIC JOHNSON!!
Earvin Magic Johnson:
If that game-winner by Stephen Curry wasn't enough to prove that he's the greatest shooter of all-time, I don't know what will."
These aren't just some random names of the game, these are some of the greatest players, minds, and legends to ever be involved in the game praising this dude and putting into perspective how amazing this guy is!
This guy is special. Period.



He is one of the greatest NBA players of all time: Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James and now Steph Curry.