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1080p or 60 frames?

Without 1080p games arent playable 90 23.62%
 
Without 60 frames games arent playable 154 40.42%
 
Both (PC Master Race) 137 35.96%
 
Total:381

I agree with the OP. This constant hunt for reaching 1080p must stop. It is more important o have great graphics and a steady framerate IMO.



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Tagging for a read later to see the reply from OP to Tachikoma



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I don't know if I'm getting too old or something, but I seriously don't care about tech anymore. If a game is any good, I will play it on 540p with 25 fps and I wouldn't even care. I would also never play a shitty game despite 8K resolution and 120 fps.

About 1080p standards: Let the devs decide about it. It's their game, so I'll stick with whatever they think is best. They are the developers after all. I, personally, don't know shit about all tech behind that stuff or how to design or program a game.



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bananaking21 said:
teigaga said:
When ever you have a hugely inconsistent framerate, Its safe to assume that a resolution drop isn't really going to solve it.

And @Tachikoma seems to know what he's talking about.

Logically thinking, if it was as simple as dropping the resolution I'm sure most developers would. Quite a few big last gen games like COD were not even native HD.


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For the most part I agree. This gen of consoles is weak and I'd rather developers focus on improving the quality of play rather than visuals. Shitty console warz vitriol at the start of the gen shaping a gen of poorly performing/half gen games just so they can hit 1080p. It's sad.

I read about people wanting this gen to last as long as last gen. Ugh, please no. I really hope the new Nintendo console is something real powerful and third party companies take it seriously. That would really light a fire under MicroSony for their next consoles.



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The problem with Fallout 4 is that bethesda dont know how to make games run, theyre great at gameplay but they dont realy know how to make things work. The game is a mess on PC as well. If ppl stopped giving Bethesda a pass every damm time they release a game and it is inevitably a technical mess maybe theyd improve.



Just responding to title but I agree, 4K should be the new standard to which devs should be held accountable for.



DakonBlackblade said:
The problem with Fallout 4 is that bethesda dont know how to make games run, theyre great at gameplay but they dont realy know how to make things work. The game is a mess on PC as well. If ppl stopped giving Bethesda a pass every damm time they release a game and is inevitably a technical mess maybe theyd improve.

Gamers are a...like most general consumers, a pitiful bunch, who...rarely if ever have any kind of solidarity or strength of will to bend the industry. And without solidarity the companies in the industry get a "free pass". And Bethesda isn't even the most heinous or egregious offender, its just their broken games tend to be the most obvious.

It's easy to say, they shouldn't get a free pass, but if you look in my previous thread and see all the excuses made for delaying a release, you realize that this "free pass" mentality is pervasive across the gaming community.

And really, nobody gives a shit, that's why nothing happens.



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The biggest problem is that gamers want it all in a new gen.. Better resolution, framerate and to top it off a vast increase in graphic fidelity aswell. This is while games are cheaper than ever before. Yet devs are constantly being pressured to put more ressources into optimization



Azzanation said:

Ok so here is the problem. We all know by now that consoles cannot achieve 1080p and 60 frames without major sacifices, infact they cant even do 1080p without having a steady frame rate unless the games are extremly linear or nerfed to the ground (Apart from acouple exceptions).

Fallout 4 is the main problem here. Why would a dev release a game like Fallout 4 on consoles at 1080p when they know the frame rate suffers.. I tell you why, because 1080p has become the talking point this gen, that even devs are afraid to lower it because of the backlash they might get for there games. Would you rather play Fallout 4 at 1080p and 30 frames with alot of dips? or would you rather play it at 900p and closer to a 60 frames or a rock solid 30 frames? As an old school gamer my anwser is clear, Framerate. I was going to buy Fallout 4 on consoles but after seeing that both consoles struggle to keep it at 30 it ended my decision very quickly and PC it is for me.

In my own opinion, these 1080p standards need to stop, these consoles just cant do it without sacificing not only frame rate but many other effects and features just to achieve this pixal count. There is barely any difference between 1080p and 900p but dips below 30 frames is noticable. If the gaming community can get off the 1080p hype train and start looking at whats more important for games, devs will finially realise that lowering resolution isnt all that bad if it makes the game more fun to play and stable.

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No it doesn't.  It just doesn't.  Your argument = flawed is a MAJOR way.  All games are developed differently. All games were made to run differently.  All hardware runs differently.  And no developer is being forced to render a game at 1080p.  The technology is there for both consumer and developer.  You push it, you force the advancement of technology.  You can hook up a PC to a 4K TV and get amazing results.  Of course you don't have to hook up a PC to a 4K TV, but you complain about the "effects" of 1080p yet you claim it made your decision to go with PC.  As an old school gamer, I've seen console wars founght since the Atari 2600.  And all this is is that you opted for the PC version because you would have preferred playing on the Xbox One, but it's clear that the PS4 version trump this one as usual.  And I might create sawed off poll just for the hell of it, but your poll is just daft.