| XenatheStrangler said: Sony is already happy with their business. why bother? |
Why bother? its not about sony but what we want
| ArchangelMadzz said: It can be done, just not easily. And I doubt they will. If they do it will run like ass, example: |
Pssst... the frame rate impact is primarily due to the removal of screen tear. The emulator can be improved.
There are games that also run at par with actual 360 hardware. But I guess those don't support your argument?
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| Aeolus451 said: Why bother with it? They gave gamers a fully BC PS3 last gen and a lot people didn't buy it because it made the console really expensive. Do gamers actually want it? At this point, sony's PS4 is beating the competition 2 to 1 and doesn't need to do anything in regards to BC when it has a game streaming service and games on PSN. MS is trying whatever it can to bring more appeal to console and it hasn't convinced the world to go with the xbox one yet. |
I'm pretty sure what made PS3 expensive was the cell and Bluray.
It was apparently losing money even at $600. The PS2 CPU and GPU was responsible for only a tiny fraction of that cost.
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Its not that Sony cant do it, its they don't want to do it. They have invested heavily into PS-NOW and adding BC would only waste there investments. Sony also don't need to, as many gamers don't seem to have a problem with renting there older games.
ITT: A whole bunch of people who do not have the slightest clue how insanely difficult it would be to emulate a 9-core PPC based arcitecture that is unlike that of any other mainstream processor on the market of an x86 based CPU. You're acting as if it's something that's either really trivial, or something that could be done effectively if Sony put some time and effort into it.
You could not possibly be more wrong. Emulating the PS3 hardware on the PS4 is more than likely impossible. Literally - impossible. Typically the way most emulators get around this type of challenge is by trying to emulate the timing and instruction processing order on a processor that is so many magnitudes faster than what it is trying to emulate that all possible bottlenecks become negligible since every operation is completed well before it would have on the original processor, and it can simply hold each process back until the proper timing is achieved. The PS4 is not nearly powerful enough to overcome such bottlenecks. In fact don't be surprised if its well over a decade before a PC is able to emulate a PS3 reasonably well.
The xbox 360 processor is a much simpler, far more well known, and far more similar to the x86 architecture of the X1 that it is far and beyond magnitudes easier to emulate than it would be for the PS4 to emulate the PS3. So please spare everyone the Sony hate. Sony absolutely, 100% is not holding back any efforts in backwards compatibility to sell things like PS Now. It's in fact the opposite. They created services like PS Now to try and make up for the fact that PS3 backwards compatibility was quite obviously never going to happen.
Mr Puggsly said:
I'm pretty sure what made PS3 expensive was the cell and Bluray. It was apparently losing money even at $600. The PS2 CPU and GPU was responsible for only a tiny fraction of that cost. |
My point is after they ditched BC out of the PS3, the price dropped to a level gamers were far more comfortable with.
Sony wants our moneys so full bc will never be possible
They want us to buy this games over and over and over
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I Hate PLAYSTATION PLUS
Aeolus451 said:
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Actually Sony ditched a lot of things, not to mentioned a slimmed down version which they had to eat the cost and sell it at a lost.
Aeolus451 said:
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No, the price dropped because Sony was willing to take massive losses to get PS3 off the ground.
To reduce losses Sony omitting features in future models. The point is the PS2 CPU and GPU were cheap, they weren't the reason PS3 was expensive.
Ultimately, software emulation is the cheapest way to offer BC for old hardware. The Xbox 360 emulator on X1 is hands down the most impressive software emulator we've ever seen.
It would be awesome if PS4 had a PS3 emulator, but maybe the PS3 CPU is just too powerful to emulate. The cell seems to have been a huge mistake for Sony, it was really expensive and didn't benefit games in a significant way (but I'm sure some would disagree). Now nearly 10 years later, emulating that processor seems to be a difficult task.
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