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well lets begin: wii, xbox, xbox one, saturn, mastersystem.

if the zelda game is realy good it will catch the ps3 and the n64.

sure its no GC or DC and it lacks real greatness, but it has a bunch of realy good games.



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SanAndreasX said:
ctk495 said:
ganoncrotch said:


Love that picture so much lol.

OT perhaps change the title of the thread to include you're basing it on the past 7 years and are not including companies who have released worse consoles... which includes Nintendo themselves.


I don't think you can edit titles. I think most people get my point, however, especially superchunk. I see that i don't need to 

 

@SanAndreasX

Are you serious? The Vita has Gravity Rush(new IP), Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Persona 4. Just with a quick google check you can see those games and tonsothers. The Wii U? Mass Effect(port) and a bunch of the same old Kart, Smash and Mario 3D land(side scroller not even in the levels of galaxy or sunshine) Nintendo has so little faith in the Wii U that they even release the same game(smash 4) for the DS to not lose money. I think you truly need to wake up and accept that nintendo needs to change their strategy, they messed up this generation. Most of the games you list like fire emblem and xenoblade you could pretty much get the same experience by buying a DS. 

 

Going by your logic, you could get the same Uncharted experience by buying a PS3. Which is why the Vita failed. Nobody wanted a handheld to play games that would be better served by playing them on a PS3. For that matter, why would I want to play Xenoblade Chronicles X on a 3DS instead of a Wii U?

I don't need to wake up to anything. Nintendo needs to change their strategy. There was no denial of that on my part. Doesn't change the fact that your thread was fallacious at the outset and you started moving the goalposts when people called you out on it.


Because I would rather not spend money on a 3DS than buy a Wii U as I don't need it. 

I have accomplished much more in my thread than I expected. I simply made a strong statement and then clarified it as I went along. It's funny how you are proving some implicit premises I had. The fact that, the Wii U is so awful that you need to 'grasp at straws' and bring up forgotten consoles in order to say its not the worst, shows how bad it truly is. Also what happened to phillips and atari? They are OUT of the hardware business. Just like Nintendo will be soon if they don't do something about it. 



ctk495 said:
SanAndreasX said:
ctk495 said:
ganoncrotch said:


Love that picture so much lol.

OT perhaps change the title of the thread to include you're basing it on the past 7 years and are not including companies who have released worse consoles... which includes Nintendo themselves.


I don't think you can edit titles. I think most people get my point, however, especially superchunk. I see that i don't need to 

 

@SanAndreasX

Are you serious? The Vita has Gravity Rush(new IP), Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Persona 4. Just with a quick google check you can see those games and tonsothers. The Wii U? Mass Effect(port) and a bunch of the same old Kart, Smash and Mario 3D land(side scroller not even in the levels of galaxy or sunshine) Nintendo has so little faith in the Wii U that they even release the same game(smash 4) for the DS to not lose money. I think you truly need to wake up and accept that nintendo needs to change their strategy, they messed up this generation. Most of the games you list like fire emblem and xenoblade you could pretty much get the same experience by buying a DS. 

 

Going by your logic, you could get the same Uncharted experience by buying a PS3. Which is why the Vita failed. Nobody wanted a handheld to play games that would be better served by playing them on a PS3. For that matter, why would I want to play Xenoblade Chronicles X on a 3DS instead of a Wii U?

I don't need to wake up to anything. Nintendo needs to change their strategy. There was no denial of that on my part. Doesn't change the fact that your thread was fallacious at the outset and you started moving the goalposts when people called you out on it.


Because I would rather not spend money on a 3DS than buy a Wii U as I don't need it. 

I have accomplished much more in my thread than I expected. I simply made a strong statement and then clarified it as I went along. It's funny how you are proving some implicit premises I had. The fact that, the Wii U is so awful that you need to 'grasp at straws' and bring up forgotten consoles in order to say its not the worst, shows how bad it truly is. Also what happened to phillips and atari? They are OUT of the hardware business. Just like Nintendo will be soon if they don't do something about it. 


forgotten consoles?  those arent forgotten...



Wii U is a nice console. I like it much more than the Wii. The brand of entertainment that sold the Wii was a temporary fleeting one.



My 8th gen collection

This whole thread is trolling. Complete with moving goalposts and ignoring of facts.



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ctk495 said:
SanAndreasX said:
ctk495 said:


I don't think you can edit titles. I think most people get my point, however, especially superchunk. I see that i don't need to 

 

@SanAndreasX

Are you serious? The Vita has Gravity Rush(new IP), Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Persona 4. Just with a quick google check you can see those games and tonsothers. The Wii U? Mass Effect(port) and a bunch of the same old Kart, Smash and Mario 3D land(side scroller not even in the levels of galaxy or sunshine) Nintendo has so little faith in the Wii U that they even release the same game(smash 4) for the DS to not lose money. I think you truly need to wake up and accept that nintendo needs to change their strategy, they messed up this generation. Most of the games you list like fire emblem and xenoblade you could pretty much get the same experience by buying a DS. 

 

Going by your logic, you could get the same Uncharted experience by buying a PS3. Which is why the Vita failed. Nobody wanted a handheld to play games that would be better served by playing them on a PS3. For that matter, why would I want to play Xenoblade Chronicles X on a 3DS instead of a Wii U?

I don't need to wake up to anything. Nintendo needs to change their strategy. There was no denial of that on my part. Doesn't change the fact that your thread was fallacious at the outset and you started moving the goalposts when people called you out on it.


Because I would rather not spend money on a 3DS than buy a Wii U as I don't need it. 

I have accomplished much more in my thread than I expected. I simply made a strong statement and then clarified it as I went along. It's funny how you are proving some implicit premises I had. The fact that, the Wii U is so awful that you need to 'grasp at straws' and bring up forgotten consoles in order to say its not the worst, shows how bad it truly is. Also what happened to phillips and atari? They are OUT of the hardware business. Just like Nintendo will be soon if they don't do something about it. 

 

You made a fallacious premise ("worst console of all time") at the outset and were called out on it. Your "clarification" was covering your tracks when you got caught. As for forgotten consoles, clearly a number of people other than me remembered them, which is why you got called out on it.  So you proved jack squat.

P.S. Atari was a major force in gaming a lot longer than Sega was. The gaming industry started with Atari, and they were outselling their nearest competitor 2-to-1 during the early 1980s. Sega was a major force in gaming for a whopping five years, at the peak of the Genesis, and they managed a second-place finish to Nintendo. They were an also-ran during Gen 3, they were an also-ran during Gen 5 (and hemorrhaging so much money the CEO of their parent company was having to donate money out of his own pocket to them to keep them afloat), and they didn't even last two years in Gen 6 before they pulled the plug on their hardware.



ctk495 said:
SanAndreasX said:
ctk495 said:
ganoncrotch said:


Love that picture so much lol.

OT perhaps change the title of the thread to include you're basing it on the past 7 years and are not including companies who have released worse consoles... which includes Nintendo themselves.


I don't think you can edit titles. I think most people get my point, however, especially superchunk. I see that i don't need to 

 

@SanAndreasX

Are you serious? The Vita has Gravity Rush(new IP), Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Persona 4. Just with a quick google check you can see those games and tonsothers. The Wii U? Mass Effect(port) and a bunch of the same old Kart, Smash and Mario 3D land(side scroller not even in the levels of galaxy or sunshine) Nintendo has so little faith in the Wii U that they even release the same game(smash 4) for the DS to not lose money. I think you truly need to wake up and accept that nintendo needs to change their strategy, they messed up this generation. Most of the games you list like fire emblem and xenoblade you could pretty much get the same experience by buying a DS. 

 

Going by your logic, you could get the same Uncharted experience by buying a PS3. Which is why the Vita failed. Nobody wanted a handheld to play games that would be better served by playing them on a PS3. For that matter, why would I want to play Xenoblade Chronicles X on a 3DS instead of a Wii U?

I don't need to wake up to anything. Nintendo needs to change their strategy. There was no denial of that on my part. Doesn't change the fact that your thread was fallacious at the outset and you started moving the goalposts when people called you out on it.


Because I would rather not spend money on a 3DS than buy a Wii U as I don't need it. 

I have accomplished much more in my thread than I expected. I simply made a strong statement and then clarified it as I went along. It's funny how you are proving some implicit premises I had. The fact that, the Wii U is so awful that you need to 'grasp at straws' and bring up forgotten consoles in order to say its not the worst, shows how bad it truly is. Also what happened to phillips and atari? They are OUT of the hardware business. Just like Nintendo will be soon if they don't do something about it. 

Ok you can't say of all time and then claim that bringing up older consoles is invalid. That is just going all over the place with crazy bad logic and your responses are making it seem like this is very much a flame bait thread. If you want to narrow the argument to the decade, or generation that is fine (I will still disagree but you can't bitch about older bad consoles being brought up if you say all time).



Check the link below. (note to Admins: it's not really porn please don't ban me!)

 

I don't think it's the worst Nintendo home console, let alone worst console overall. I'd definitely put it above Gamecube and probably N64 as well.



I think the WiiU is a good console. Missing third party support is a point, but I have a lot games to play on the WiiU. Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, Smash U, Mario 3 D World and Donkey Kong are very good games that entertained me for a very long time. Plus there are very good versions of Batman Arkham City, Deus Ex or Splinter Cell, which used the gamepad very well. For me, who didn't own a Wii, the backwards compability is a nice thing and the number of interesting games is even higher. So no, the WiiU is, for me, not a bad console.



OP go look at the Amstrad GX 4000 then come back and confirm if this is a serious topic.

Worst Nintendo platform is definitely worthy of discussion. Personally I don't think it is because the games we do have are solid gold. But yeah prior to the PlayStation, there were a lot of terrible consoles.



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