Soundwave said:
midrange said:
Mario sunshine was not the end all be all of graphics, but it did demonstrate an advancement in water physics, which is something to 3d worlds nothing. To top it off, the game had greater exploration and puzzle segments.
In terms of mario kart and the double dash feature read this:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/03/mario-kart-double-dashs-dual-racers-havent-been-forgotten
clearly they thought double riders was a cool mechanic, but surprise surprise, the wii u processing power held back that development (among other things)
Again, pikmin is a puzzle/exploration game, and splatoon is cod with cute graphics. To compare the 2 would be very hard to do. If you do want to make a comparison, compare pikmin to the other puzzle games at the time, and splatoon to other shooters of its time, and you will see how short on content splatoon really is (even with all the dlc factored in).
Wind waker and its "cartoon" style is still considered one of the best zeldas, the wii u doesn't even have a zelda game yet. Sunshine at the very least was a good attempt at a 3d mario game, the best the wii u has is the 2.5d 3d world.
The gamecube get put on a pedestal because it had the games to back it up. Don't believe me, tell me which system had the better hardware for cheaper at the time? And while your at it, please tell me which game ended up with 2 metroid primes, an f-zero game, semi-decent 3rd party, Animal crossing, 2 zelda games, luigi's mansion, and paper mario, among others
The wii u has good games, but let's not suddenly pretend that it deserves to be placed higher than past Nintendo consoles when the wii u library clearly seems to be the weakest out of all Nintendo consoles.
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I don't agree that's it's "clearly" the weakest.
IMO both the GameCube and Wii are really overrated by Nintendo fans here.
Wii U has several key Nintendo IP that are better than the GameCube or Wii, and Splatoon is the best new Nintendo IP in probably 20 years (sit down Pikmin, there's a reason why you're a B/C-tier Nintendo IP).
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"several key Nintendo IP" - where are they? gamecube had metroid, animal crossing, 2 zeldas, 3d mario, luigi's mansion, eternal darkness, f-zero, 2 3d pokemon games, fire emblem, and more, does the wii u have those?
Splatoon is a decent new IP, but compared to animal crossing (gamecube new IP), metroid prime (gamecube spawned), wii sports (wii new IP) and xenoblade chronicles (wii new IP), calling Splatoon the "best new Nintendo IP in probably 20 years" is laughable.
Yes, I will call the wii u library the weakest out of Nintendo consoles when it is clearly missing many games and IP that the others had, no not just b/c tier games, I'm talking about metroid, animal crossing, 3d mario,...
edit: it seems you have a personal problem with the art direction of wind waker and sunshine, and while I feel bad for you, I do acknowledge that they are still critically acclaimed and beloved by its respective fans to this day