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This is what a lot of us expected and horrible for the industry. Kickstarter is supposed to help smaller developers to create their dream project, not for huge publishers to get some free publicity and use the gamers to get some extra cash for their games. Soon you will se EA, Ubisoft and others go the same way and basically drown the smaller publishers on Kickstarter.



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If Kickstarter find a project to have been unethically funded, is there a risk that it gets taken of the page? Hopefully that happens and Sony are forced to pay for their own games, instead of using these crappy tactics.



Puppyroach said:
This is what a lot of us expected and horrible for the industry. Kickstarter is supposed to help smaller developers to create their dream project, not for huge publishers to get some free publicity and use the gamers to get some extra cash for their games. Soon you will se EA, Ubisoft and others go the same way and basically drown the smaller publishers on Kickstarter.


Let's hope not... That's why I'm not getting this game on my PS4. I probably *cough* won't *cough* pirate a PC copy of this game. I really can't support these kinds of practices. It's really sad, too, as I think this project could have broken all kinds of Kickstarter records and released on all sorts of platforms. 



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StuOhQ said:
Aeolus451 said:


Wasn't the whole point of kickstarter to find funding for games or projects? Isn't shenmue being made because it was funded through kickstarter? Ok then.


When you create a Kickstarter campaign, you are required to disclose all details of your business proposition. Withholding the fact that Sony was secretly publishing the game is unethical.


If I remember correctly, they said if it meets the goal, the game will be made. Everyone knows that it would cost more than 2 mil to make the game. Who do you think was gonna fund the rest of it? Maybe it's the company that showcased the game and made everyone aware of the kickstarter campaign. It was common sense to what platform the game would be going to and there were no deceptions. 

 I could just say that you're looking for a needle in a hay stack but that's used too much. You're just looking for a black hole in outer space or for a drop of fresh water in the ocean. 



NiKKoM said:
Talal said:


While I agree that Kickstarter shouldn't be used like this, the bolded is not very logical. The people who funded Shenmue funded it because it's Shenmue. It's not like this money would have gone towards funding a different game if Shenmue didn't exist.

More then 30% are repeating backers at kickstarter so yeah at least a large amount of money could have went to another project.. I'm worried about kickstarter.. More and more are calling it an abuse when multi billion dollar corporations are using it like this.. This is harmfull for smaller projects

Except Sony is a "Negative" multi billion dollor company :) so what does bolded have to do with anything? :)



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What a lot of bitterness. I'm happy it gets extra funding and free publicity. Marketing budgets are too much nowadays. This way a lot more money will go to actual game development. Plus the developers get a sounding board and the fans get involved with the progress of the game.

It was never going to live up as a worthy sequel for $2 million, dream on. It's a clever way to promote the game, get the fans involved, and raise some starting capital. $29 for the game when it's finished, good deal for me too. Everybody wins. At least this is one game I know I will play when it's done. I quit backing smaller projects as my interest has always gone by the time they're finished, most of them are still in development hell. (Those promised delivery dates, what percentage actually make it?)



Yep, no way this is not Sony exclusive if they are funding it. MS lets a lot of their exclusives on the PC because they don't care if you play it on Xbox or Windows, its still with them.



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Aeolus451 said:

If I remember correctly, they said if it meets the goal, the game will be made. Everyone knows that it would cost more than 2 mil to make the game. Who do you think was gonna fund the rest of it? Maybe it's the company that showcased the game and made everyone aware of the kickstarter campaign. It was common sense to what platform the game would be going to and there were no deceptions. 

 I could just say that you're looking for a needle in a hay stack but that's used too much. You're just looking for a black hole in outer space or for a drop of fresh water in the ocean. 

What would your views be if EA used Kickstarter for Fifa every year or Nintendo for the next Mario?



StuOhQ said:
This whole affair has been wholly unethical. Kickstarter was not designed to be abused in this fashion, and I won't be buying the game now. Comments from the Kickstarter page indicate that a lot of the backers were hoping for stretch goals that would add support for future consoles.

And where did that misguided hopee come from when it was at Son'y conference and the kickstarter page said from the get go PS4 and PC?



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Aeolus451 said:
StuOhQ said:


When you create a Kickstarter campaign, you are required to disclose all details of your business proposition. Withholding the fact that Sony was secretly publishing the game is unethical.


If I remember correctly, they said if it meets the goal, the game will be made. Everyone knows that it would cost more than 2 mil to make the game. Who do you think was gonna fund the rest of it? Maybe it's the company that showcased the game and made everyone aware of the kickstarter campaign. It was common sense to what platform the game would be going to and there were no deceptions. 

 I could just say that you're looking for a needle in a hay stack but that's used too much. You're just looking for a black hole in outer space or for a drop of fresh water in the ocean. 


Yes but why did Sony, a mega corporation, need 2 million to make the game; which is pocket change for them? They said that the game needed 2 million in fundraising or else it would not be made. Why would it not be made? I don't get it. Asking for money ahead of time as a show of faith, when you have the money in your pocket, is so stupid. Is this the new practice? Asking consumers to invest ahead of time instead of the corporation making an investment risk? I cannot agree with that.



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