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TheSpindler said:
That 'gauging interest' line sounds like BS to me. Of course there's interest. But launching a Kickstarter just means you've essentially milked your hardcore fans of more money than they would have spent on the game itself, not to actually see its viability in the global market.

40,000 people doesn't show global interest, it just shows 40, 000 people who are willing to put up 3 million dollars of their money to fund a game. So congrats in getting 3 million(or however much they end up with at the end) extra towards your development I guess.

It makes me actually wonder how much it would have gotten if Sony hadn't announced that they were backing it as well. probably would have been at 3.5 or 4 million by now I think.

That is one very ignorant comment.

No one feels "milked", so save your concern to someone else. The 29$ reward is the digital copy of the game on ps4 or pc (wherever you chose it). I would pay more for the physical version on ps4, but it's not on the rewards.If anything I feel bad I'm getting one of my most anticipated games of my entire life for only this much. I might up my donation to get one of the special editions just for the sheer love and respect I feel for that franchise.

If being the fastest game to ever raise 1 million on crowdfunding doesn't show interest in it, I don't know what will 



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Btw, just a thought: If the Kickstarter campaign was just to gauge interest, why announce the game before the Kickstarter has begun? It seems as though Sony had decided beforehand that they would the game and used Kickstarter as a means to do a PR stunt. What if the Kickstarter hadn't reached 2mn, do people seriously think Sony then would have approached the fans and said that the game would never be released? Seriously?



REDZONE said:
So another exclusive?


Console exclusive, it's coming to PC as well I believe. 



Cloudman said:
Talal said:
Cloudman said:
u_u Way to go Sony... Nice to have fans donate money for you to decide to fund the game...


You do realise that people funding the game will get it right? So "donation" is not the right word. They're buying the rewards listed.

They are testing to see if people are interested by trying to have them raise 2 mil dollars to see if it's worth it. That is one of the worst things I have ever heard. I am plenty sure some people gave more than the bare minimum for the game. This is going down a very dangerous route. I don't want this to end up where people have to give money just to check if some games are worth making. It's seems outright awful.

What is bad about it? You give whatever you want, and in the end, you get what you've paid for, based on how much money you pledged.

How is this bad in any way, tell me.



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Puppyroach said:
Btw, just a thought: If the Kickstarter campaign was just to gauge interest, why announce the game before the Kickstarter has begun? It seems as though Sony had decided beforehand that they would the game and used Kickstarter as a means to do a PR stunt. What if the Kickstarter hadn't reached 2mn, do people seriously think Sony then would have approached the fans and said that the game would never be released? Seriously?

Since you conveniently ignored my post (I wonder why?), allow me to repost it for you.

I don't think you understand how often this sort of thing happens on Kickstarter. Bloodstained, Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland 2 have all secured outside funding in addition to the kickstarter funds. It's a very common practice for developers to use kickstarter primarily as a tool to convince investors that there's interest in the project. This isn't a Sony project. This is a Yu Suzuki project that Sony is co-funding in addition to the raised Kickstarter funds, likely in exchange for console exclusivity. They're clearly not funding the whole thing or else there wouldn't be a PC version at all. 

So no, Kickstarter isn't going to remove anything.

Suzuki used Kickstarter to convince Sony (and possibly other investors) that there is market for this game and it's worth investing in. This is a very common practice that happens with a lot of crowdfunded video games. Most of them require far more than the funds they got from Kickstarter. Simply put, you're searching for a controversy that isn't there.  



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

They have opened Pandora's box with this... It's gonna get out of hand.

A publisher can easily use this method to con gamers into paying part of the tab.. Then tell you that sales didn't meet expectations for a sequel regardless of good numbers.



Fusioncode said:
Puppyroach said:
Btw, just a thought: If the Kickstarter campaign was just to gauge interest, why announce the game before the Kickstarter has begun? It seems as though Sony had decided beforehand that they would the game and used Kickstarter as a means to do a PR stunt. What if the Kickstarter hadn't reached 2mn, do people seriously think Sony then would have approached the fans and said that the game would never be released? Seriously?

Since you conveniently ignored my post (I wonder why?), allow me to repost it for you.

I don't think you understand how often this sort of thing happens on Kickstarter. Bloodstained, Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland 2 have all secured outside funding in addition to the kickstarter funds. It's a very common practice for developers to use kickstarter primarily as a tool to convince investors that there's interest in the project. This isn't a Sony project. This is a Yu Suzuki project that Sony is co-funding in addition to the raised Kickstarter funds, likely in exchange for console exclusivity. They're clearly not funding the whole thing or else there wouldn't be a PC version at all. 

So no, Kickstarter isn't going to remove anything.

Suzuki used Kickstarter to convince Sony (and possibly other investors) that there is market for this game and it's worth investing in. This is a very common practice that happens with a lot of crowdfunded video games. Most of them require far more than the funds they got from Kickstarter. Simply put, you're searching for a controversy that isn't there.  

I simply missed your post, calm down.

That this practice is common already only goes to show that it already is a problem, so that doesn´t real help the argument that it is ok for Sony. Sony just took it to another level where they announced the actual game at E3, and therefore obvisously always was going to fund it.

How could Suzuki use Kickstarter to convince Sony if the Kickstarter started AFTER it was announced at Sony´s stage? It goes back to my question: did Sony then basically say "Well if the Kickstarter fails, we´ll just tell the fans that the game won´t happen"? You don´t think Sony was already funding the game and simply used Kickstarter as free marketing?



Puppyroach said:
Fusioncode said:

Since you conveniently ignored my post (I wonder why?), allow me to repost it for you.

I don't think you understand how often this sort of thing happens on Kickstarter. Bloodstained, Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland 2 have all secured outside funding in addition to the kickstarter funds. It's a very common practice for developers to use kickstarter primarily as a tool to convince investors that there's interest in the project. This isn't a Sony project. This is a Yu Suzuki project that Sony is co-funding in addition to the raised Kickstarter funds, likely in exchange for console exclusivity. They're clearly not funding the whole thing or else there wouldn't be a PC version at all. 

So no, Kickstarter isn't going to remove anything.

Suzuki used Kickstarter to convince Sony (and possibly other investors) that there is market for this game and it's worth investing in. This is a very common practice that happens with a lot of crowdfunded video games. Most of them require far more than the funds they got from Kickstarter. Simply put, you're searching for a controversy that isn't there.  

I simply missed your post, calm down.

That this practice is common already only goes to show that it already is a problem, so that doesn´t real help the argument that it is ok for Sony. Sony just took it to another level where they announced the actual game at E3, and therefore obvisously always was going to fund it.

How could Suzuki use Kickstarter to convince Sony if the Kickstarter started AFTER it was announced at Sony´s stage? It goes back to my question: did Sony then basically say "Well if the Kickstarter fails, we´ll just tell the fans that the game won´t happen"? You don´t think Sony was already funding the game and simply used Kickstarter as free marketing?


You've seen the announcement in question, right? The tagline for the kickstarter was literally Save Shenmue. Not 'Shenmue Is Saved.'

So to answer your question, if the kickstarter failed- and, to be specific, didn't display a great deal of interest from the consumer base in terms of hype and 'Ooo, I Wants' to suggest people would still actually get on board for this property- then yeah, it WOULD have likely been Sony saying 'Well, worth a try man, but we're not going to be putting any more money or time into this. Clearly there isn't much demand for it. Sorry!' And then, if Yu couldn't find other investors who were interested, bottom line is Shenmue 3 very well might NOT happen. Why would Sony want anything to do with a title that isn't going to give them either a lot of money, or a fair bit of console-selling leverage against their direct competitor? Especially if they're going to be chipping in millions or even tens of millions of dollars.

And since (before the Kickstarter was funded) they didn't announce their intention to provide funding as well, they would have been able to drop supporting Shemue III's development without kicking up fanbase rage, because (before funding was complete) they never said they WOULD be contributing directly. They were only tied to the game insofar as giving them some time on the E3 stage, and so rather than the headlines reading 'Sony Cancels Shenmue III Development,' the headlines would have been 'Shenmue III Fails To Achieve Funding' or something to that effect, and it would have been completely accurate to boot.



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