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I have experienced Oculus before and it was...well...an experience. But now that they're putting it to use with a controller, some good games might come from it. I think the "Survival Horror" and FPS genres would benefit from this style of gaming. I'm excited to see where this all goes. I don't think it is doomed as of yet. Let's see the games first, as always.



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Chazore said:
aLkaLiNE said:
 


You're right, nobody likes to lose. But the point MS entered the console space was to disrupt Sony so that the PC didn't lose market share to the home console. They didn't do it to control that market, they wanted to DESTROY that market and ever since then they've created policies that have been overall bad for you, me, and up and coming independent studios trying to catch the spotlight.

 

Fact is Sony came to Nintendo because they wanted their form of physical media to gain traction. Nintendo backed out and Sony knew they had something big with the CD format and ran with it. You're talking about two MAJOR differences in why these companies are here today, why they entered in the first place, and why they're perceived how they are. #DealWithit

You do realise the day consoles stop existing or become more like PC then you can officially say that the corps left behind "destroyed" consoles, I don't recall MS jumping in with the sheer desire (to this day we'll go with it) to destroy consoles, they don't really have much hold on PC gaming besides their OS which is changing with Linux/Steam OS, they don't have their own storefront on PC like Steam/Origin/Uplay/Battle.net do, they thought they could hold down both but fucked it up along the line for themselves and got arrogant, then they got arrogant again back in 2013 and decided to change their tune, only thing is they are just losing and they know and I know that they dislike losing which is why Phil is showing up at the PCG show to "unify" Xbox with PC gaming which to me is another attempt at GFWL and many folks on PCG website can smell that from a mile away, it's not to say it's evil, they just want to keep with the Xbox brand they made and refuse to let it go, they refuse to give up and admit the brand isn't as synominious or known, by trying to fuse it with PC gaming they think it will make them stronger as a whole, it might do but I honestly would rather they drop consoles and come back to their roots and reign from there since that's where the future is pointing to anyway, wouldn't make them any more or less evil for going that route.

I assumed you were going to be civil and then I read the Dealwithit hashtag as if it was the final say/smackdown on some topic of importance, my mistake for thinking it was going to be a normal discussion.

Its a known fact that MS came only into console space to undermine them, they would have never cared as they allready own windows. Its the same way why they went into mobile when android was growing. They want to have the monopoly on OSs on every device, androind and iOS have shown that an OS designed for different devices can take away windows marketshare by a huge margin. Altough its also because of political reasons why MS went into the console bussiness imo, because some people in washington and wallstreet always cant get over the fact if there is some area were Americans didnt play a role like the hardware bussines of consoles was at that time. Its the same way why apple pushes its Mac Pros being manufactered in the US.

If MS ever won a console generation they would have completley killed their Xbox platform and made it into a PC service like steam. They are doing it now slowly but i think its because they think PC will win anyways. Everyone of their Moves is hurting console gaming as a whole by doing that. Because people think playstation and xbox are the same even if both companies have tottally different goals in mind, but playstation gets the same flag like xbox from people advocating that they are both PCs.

And yes MS benefits from gaming, isnt that one of the main reasons why people choose a PC over a Mac? because it has more games? it benefits MS indirectly.



Chazore said:
Ruler said:
 


MS clearly has a monopoly for the OS on PC, the Personal Computer. its known fact. And you clearly distract from my arguments to me.

Why on earth, I jsut want to clarify this, why on earth did you just throw in "personal computer" when you already mentioned PC?, do you take me for some dense idiot or something?, I know MS's OS is "wildly popular" like a certain console is at the moment but that doesn't mean it's a monopoly for gaming, Mac's weren't designed for gaming and they still aren't, that's a fact, Linux users are small in number due to the nature of Linux itself and the many distros, and no you do that to yourself because you felt you needed to latch onto it, only when I pointed that out did you respond to the original quote, you didn't reply to my one in the other thread either.

that poster is correct though, Microsoft and their Windows operating system is one of the biggest Monopolies in any industry in terms of market share. they have NO competition and therefore dictate prices and the PC world in general



Chazore said:
When did MS turn all toxic and evil like some Captain planet villain?.

1993, I think.



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Chazore said:
Ruler said:
 


MS clearly has a monopoly for the OS on PC, the Personal Computer. its known fact. And you clearly distract from my arguments to me.

Why on earth, I jsut want to clarify this, why on earth did you just throw in "personal computer" when you already mentioned PC?, do you take me for some dense idiot or something?, I know MS's OS is "wildly popular" like a certain console is at the moment but that doesn't mean it's a monopoly for gaming, Mac's weren't designed for gaming and they still aren't, that's a fact, Linux users are small in number due to the nature of Linux itself and the many distros, and no you do that to yourself because you felt you needed to latch onto it, only when I pointed that out did you respond to the original quote, you didn't reply to my one in the other thread either.


What other thread? 

MSs OSs isnt just popular it has a monopoly. Imagine if Windows would have the same marketshare like the ps4 has for 8-Gen consoles meaning 50%, we all know that isnt the case for PCs. Both cant be compared at all.

And if you look at the grand picture Sony and Nintendo arent that big in gaming. PC which is headed by Microsoft together with Xbox is by far larger than both together.

 



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All VR devices will fail completely.



    

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So only now it is because Microsoft is invested. /sigh



NightDragon83 said:
How so? HD DVD failed simply because more movie studios and media companies backed Sony and their Blu Ray format than Toshiba's HD DVD. Microsoft had nothing to do with the development of HD DVD, and they only supported the add-on for the 360 to try to take a bite out of Blu Ray's marketshare.

Joke thread is a joke.

I think what's meant is that there was a format war going on between hddvd and bluray, and by ms adopting hd-dvd, it prolonged the war, which made it harder for product demand to succeed for BR. This kept the rightful winner from taking the market and easing consumer burden.

In turn, the whole reason for accepting HDDVD was to hurt consumers who supported BR, which, at the time, were ps3 adopters.



I think out of the three major vr products, oculus rift has the best chances to succeed. First it is backed by Microsoft in combination with Facebook. This is basically unmatched. And it will get easy support from Windows 10.

Valve is new to the hardware business (HTC is not), they will have a hard time to sell those steam machines and I just don't get why they are skipping such a crucial E3 for them. Sure Steam is big, but I bet PC games will support Oculus as well.

Morpheus... Well that is Sony doing their own thing, without a major partner and no relation to PC gaming. Somehow this sounds more like HD-DVD than the other products.


I agree though HoloLens will be a new level.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

It's not like Sony never sent things out to basically die. Vita, Move, 3D games, etc...

Also the "it's the way it happened last time so it's going to happen again" logic has been proven wrong many times, especially when it comes to video games.

As for these devices, they are not really at all similar to Blu-Ray/HD DVD. For example it's hard to believe that the major third parties are going to make their AAA VR only games exclusive to Morpheus (that's even assuming there are AAA VR only games when it's much more likely to be AAA games that are "better with VR goggles".

Considering third parties are used to making games that are multiplatform why would they suddenly start making exclusive VR games for a platform and cut off millions of potential sales? Unless Sony is willing to start some serious moneyhatting it's not likely that such a change would happen. If anything we're much more likely to see games that are compatible with all three formats.

The only chance Sony has of "winning" in the way that Blu-Ray won is if they're willing to go all in and bet big with AAA VR exclusive games by all their major studios. They never took that kind of risk with Move, 3D games or even Vita so it remains to be seen how much they're going to put on the line to try to make this a success. If they're willing to lose billions I could see them dominating but I wouldn't bet on it. We're more likely to see their existing games with added VR support and "on-rail" good looking games that won't be the groundbreaking games people are expecting.