Oculus Rift is the next HD DVD

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Tachikoma on 12 June 2015

inconvenient truth, the first few years of blu-ray were pretty dismal, hd-dvd versions of things available on bluray also, looked better on hd-dvd, because the VC-1 codec used was better than the MPEG2 used for bluray.

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vivster on 12 June 2015

I wouldn't really call it "support". I mean Oculus was and it will always be a Windows device. So any direct involvement from MS for good or bad will have no impact on its success.

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Cobretti2 on 12 June 2015

HD DVD lost because Sony pulled out their cheque book in the last hour to sign over major studios to BluRay. Once they went everyone followed.

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Chazore on 12 June 2015

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Hahaha my bad. Based on what I just read our points of view aren't that far apart. That last comment wasn't necessarily reflected at you so much either so I apologize for that.

It's cool, I just feel that while they aren't smart at making some decisions, I don't really believe they are evil as fuck like some make them out to be =P.

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Puppyroach on 12 June 2015

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and by that i mean a doomed technology publically backed by MS but given no real investment by MS to ensure its success. OR will fail in all aspects except the one thing MS cares about,.. disrupt and prevent the adoption of VR devices and force sony/valve to loose large amounts of money while ms waits for the market to jump into the next set of techology. for HD DVD it was waiting for digital distribution to become feasible with faster internet and larger storage devices, for VR it is waiting for hololense technology to become practically priced and software suport to increase.

Or VR will fail miserably on its own, without any intervention from MS, and we might lay all the conspiracy theories on the side? :).

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teigaga on 12 June 2015

I don't think its a ridiculous stance to assume but here are some MAJOR ways in which its different:

Oculus and Morpheus fulfil different niches to some extent, Oculus does not currently work with the most popular gaming device out and I don't think it will anytime soon if the most MS can get out of it regarding Xbox One is streaming which essentially is not VR. Vice versa there is a hardcore PC crowd and Oculus will be their go to.

HD-DVD was not bought by facebook moments before its commercial release, they have long term plans.
VR doesn't begin and end with Oculus and Morpheus, it will be a multigenerational effort, unlike HD-DVD/Bluray which were are probably the last introduction of "next gen" discs/entertainment storage media we will see for another 10+ years. We may get updated bluray disc but I suspect nothing more.

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taus90 on 12 June 2015

Normchacho said:

DirtyP2002 said:
I think out of the three major vr products, oculus rift has the best chances to succeed. First it is backed by Microsoft in combination with Facebook. This is basically unmatched. And it will get easy support from Windows 10.

Valve is new to the hardware business (HTC is not), they will have a hard time to sell those steam machines and I just don't get why they are skipping such a crucial E3 for them. Sure Steam is big, but I bet PC games will support Oculus as well.

Morpheus... Well that is Sony doing their own thing, without a major partner and no relation to PC gaming. Somehow this sounds more like HD-DVD than the other products.

I agree though HoloLens will be a new level.

That's weird, I think Oculus may find themselves having the most trouble.

Valve as of right now pretty much owns the PC gaming space and have a good reputation amongst PC gamers. On top of that, their headset is likely going to be the first to market and will pack the best hardware. It will be more expensive, but for the people that are willing to throw down the kind of money for a PC that will even run a VR headset, and the early adopters that are going to be so important to VRs sucess, that better hardware and early launch are going to be important.

Sony is the only one without a major partner because they're the only one who doesn't need one. Sony does hardware and software all by themselves. The Morpheus will most likely be the cheapest of the three headsets and will require the smallest investment to be able to use, which means that it will be the most mass market friendly. Being on console also means that it will have no direct competitor.

The Rift though, could end up in a tight spot. It's going to launch after the Vive and won't be as good of hardware. It will be cheaper but likely still far from cheap with the CEO quoted as saying that the headset and PC to run it together should cost around $1500. They also don't have the established fanbase or storefront from which to market their headset or it's games.

Edit: I forgot to mention that Oculus is owned by Facebook now. Which has not been a very popular change amongst the very people they need to buy it when it launches next year.

+ 1

also I would believe Microsoft and oculus partnership will do more harm to VR than benefit anyone of them. I just hope casual adopter of VR, doesn't get the impression, that VR is all about sitting in a virtual room and play game on a screen front.. and that morpheus and HTC vive will be the same.

Also I agree with the OP, the way MS implemented HD DVD to 360, just to play movies and not games. xbox1 VR implementation is in the same league as HD DVD was. tacked on.