not its not, pattern learning has nothing to do with mechanics. its  try and error. but try and error games are totaly fine, the dealbreaker for many is the bad save feature.

and yeah i wasnt so clear about the framerate drops, the souls games (all 3 of em) run bad, realy realy bad, BB runs okayish.

LOVE the genre actually. That's why I keep trying the games hoping to like them.

I agree. For those who like the game. By all means, Go right ahead. But everything I've listed I the OP are based on my experience with these games.

I can understand a lot of complaints, but no atmosphere?

I don't think this series is perfect by any stretch, but they are far from terrible. Some games hold your hand and have lengthy cut-scenes, but the Souls series goes the other extreme path and does the opposite; I'm not sure if that is either an intentional response to a design trend, or FS knows they suck at traditional storytelling and completely avoid it.

The day they let NPCs actually explain things like actual people and not just repeat one cryptic line like an old and possibly badly translated JRPG NPC...the day they actually show newbies how to take their first steps rather than just pointing at some stairs and saying "do it"... these games will earn an even bigger audience.

Expect alot of Hate mail for going agasint the tide. I agree, Played DS 1 and 2 and alittle of Bloodborne, and as a game, they fail to meet alot of standards, in fact it doesnt do anything better then other RPGs except the fact its incrediably hard (which isnt a bad thing)

These games are incrediably linear and i am amazed that DS 1 and 2 dont look that great considering how linear they really are and im talking about the PC versions. Atleast Bloodborne got the visuals right but it still fails to add anything special. Its Dark Souls with a new coat of paint. I think these games are heavly overated, there not bad games but there defiantly not the best games to buy. They lack good music/sound, lack of a detailed customising tool, lack of controls, lack in Enermy AI, lacking a good story, but they are tough as nails.

The games just aren't for me, and for some reason I still buy them.

Demon Souls I only was able to beat as I used the Soldier character that could do a magic attack, and then draw enemies to the invisible barrier and magic them to death. Bosses all had safe spots where they could be killed.

Dark Souls 1 I couldn't make it past the second part where there are skeletons that don't stay dead.

I bought Dark Souls 2 and will one day play, give-up, and youtube the game.

Bloodbourne who knows.

lol, cool story bro.
I agree with you on dark souls 2, but bloodborne has atmosphere dripping from the box itself.
Bb is the best game I've played this year (my opinion).

Sigh.

Here you go.



Enjoy this little bag of attention and savor your moment of relevance.

Aren't the Souls games typically full of backtracking and split paths? What do you mean when you say they are linear, because from what I've seen, they are less linear than most games.