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ReimTime on 05 April 2015

Of course Nintendo will be relevant. Nintendo is a household name pretty much.



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Roma on 05 April 2015

since people have been trained to love resolution over gameplay they will yet again lose unless they have something new that will attract a new audience that doesn't really care about resolution and more about fun



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AEGRO on 05 April 2015
Hiku said:
RolStoppable said:
Hiku said:
RolStoppable said:

If horsepower had been the problem, then all the 360/PS3 multiplatform games would have arrived before support dried up due to third parties moving on to X1/PS4 development.

No one knew how WiiU would sell initially, so developers were more inclined to convert 360 ports for it early on. But there's no coincidence that it's no longer getting third party support even when there is a 360 version of the game. (Metal Gear Solid V, Resident Evil: Revelations 2, etc.)

All these things go hand in hand though. A console that people consider too expensive will suffer from lower sales. Lower sales makes it less attractive for third party developers to invest in. Less third party support will make the console less attractive to gamers, etc.
It all originates from Nintendo's hardware decisions though.

I wasn't talking so much about 2014 and 2015 releases as I was about late 2012/early 2013 releases. Games like Tomb Raider, Dead Space 3 and BioShock Infinite were never in development for Wii U. This was not a reaction to low Wii U sales (they had yet to arrive), not an issue of horsepower (all games ran on the 360) and not because of the Gamepad (which is a standard controller with a screen, so no programming magic and remapping of controls is needed).

I wasn't either. I just chose some big names. The second one in particular as the first entry in the Revelations series was on WiiU, but it didn't get the sequel. Though not a reaction to WiiU's low sales? I beg to differ. Because WiiU didn't start off great, with practically no must-have Nintendo games even released within the first year, and with those specs WiiU simply had to start off strong, just like the Wii. There was the off chance that they would capture the interest of casual/non-gamers again to a degree with the gamepad (mobile/touchscreen gaming is popular) but it quickly became apparent that that wouldn't happen.
At that point it wasn't hard to figure out that WiiU not only wouldn't manage to properly take advantage of their 1 year head start over PS4/XBO, but it wouldn't sell much at all. Why port over games for a console that will have such a low install base even in the future?

Though I'd like to hear what your theory is on why 3rd party devs weren't interested in the WiiU if it's not sales or horepower.


Not because of the almighty Nintendo! God forbid that! It's because EA and Ubisoft HATE Nintendo!



alternine on 05 April 2015
Roma said:
since people have been trained to love resolution over gameplay they will yet again lose unless they have something new that will attract a new audience that doesn't really care about resolution and more about fun


Not even remotely true.



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bunchanumbers on 05 April 2015

Yes they will be relevant. They will be the last console maker. After PS5 goes streaming and Xbox is folded into the Windows brand as their gaming service, Nintendo will be alone as the last one. As the last bastion of the old ways, they will be the only option for gamers who claim they love physical media.



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Zekkyou on 05 April 2015

I expect Nintendo will always be relevant (at least as long as they remain in the market). The real question is how relevant they will be.



Zekkyou on 05 April 2015
JazzB1987 said:
I dont think they will ever be irrelevant.

The others are irrelevant because without them nothing would change.

Without nintendo everything would change.

The majority of the industry's biggest publishers and developers are tied to the success of Sony and MS's home consoles right now. Either disappearing would have a dramatic effect on the industry.

Put however much value in Nintendo's presence as you like, but let's not pretend the others are somehow irrelevant. That's just silly.



UltimateUnknown on 05 April 2015
Roma said:
since people have been trained to love resolution over gameplay they will yet again lose unless they have something new that will attract a new audience that doesn't really care about resolution and more about fun

I find this claim very questionable given that the best selling games of last gen, Call of Duty games were nowhere near the best looking games on 360/PS3. Heck some of them weren't even true 720p. Yet people still played them arguably for the fun factor. Not much different from Nintendo games.



 

UltimateUnknown on 05 April 2015
JazzB1987 said:
I dont think they will ever be irrelevant.

The others are irrelevant because without them nothing would change.

Without nintendo everything would change.

Do pray tell what about the current gaming industry would change without Nintendo. This is an honest question.

Would non-Nintendo games stop being made, which happen to be approximately over 90% of all games made? Would 3rd parties go out of business? Would PS4 miraculously stop selling like hotcakes because Nintendo is no longer in the market? Would PS4/XOne gamers stop playing/buying games, who again are the majority of gamers and becoming increasingly so over time?



 

fps_d0minat0r on 05 April 2015
Roma said:
since people have been trained to love resolution over gameplay they will yet again lose unless they have something new that will attract a new audience that doesn't really care about resolution and more about fun


Well its pretty clear what you've been 'trained' into.