By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo - Nintendo Is Hurtin' In Japan, NX Really Needs To Be Out Sooner Than Later

Pavolink said:
Yep. At best it will hold "respectable" numbers for another year. NX is coming at leatest holiday 2016.


+1 to that prediction.  The technology and time is right for a new console in 2016, and Nintendo needs one dearly.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Around the Network

You really are starting to sound like a broken record. I can see why Rol got pissed of and risked a ban.

What will having new hardware released early solve? That alone is not enough.

Nintendo needs to first have enough games in development for the next console launch window without delays to get the console of two a flying start, at least two years of dev time to have decent games and 10 games in the first 3 month window. They also need to get more studios to become sell sufficient covering all genres or to moneyhat developers for games. They need to get to a point were there is at least 3 good games coming out each month.

Without games the console is just gonna end up another Wii U with even more pissed of gamers who bought the console.



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
You really are starting to sound like a broken record. I can see why Rol got pissed of and risked a ban.

What will having new hardware released early solve? That alone is not enough.

Nintendo needs to first have enough games in development for the next console launch window without delays to get the console of two a flying start, at least two years of dev time to have decent games and 10 games in the first 3 month window. They also need to get more studios to become sell sufficient covering all genres or to moneyhat developers for games. They need to get to a point were there is at least 3 good games coming out each month.

Without games the console is just gonna end up another Wii U with even more pissed of gamers who bought the console.

FINALLY someone else understands!



Follow my Gaming and Graphics Business on facebook and on Twitter:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=101878997952596&ref=br_rs

https://twitter.com/KellyGGWD

Cobretti2 said:
You really are starting to sound like a broken record. I can see why Rol got pissed of and risked a ban.

What will having new hardware released early solve? That alone is not enough.

Nintendo needs to first have enough games in development for the next console launch window without delays to get the console of two a flying start, at least two years of dev time to have decent games and 10 games in the first 3 month window. They also need to get more studios to become sell sufficient covering all genres or to moneyhat developers for games. They need to get to a point were there is at least 3 good games coming out each month.

Without games the console is just gonna end up another Wii U with even more pissed of gamers who bought the console.


Nintendo can't support two distinct hardware platforms period any longer IMO. Those days are over and it was only kind of possible with the Wii-DS because they basically re-used the GameCube chip for a further 6 years and DS development was considerably smaller than 3DS development. 

Even then they really couldn't even support the Wii/DS in unison by generation's end. 

So this idea that they can support discreet PS4-level console + a PS3 level handheld ... is IMO a massive fantasy that's going to be a rude awakening for some when they actually see what NX is. But we'll see, that's just my take on it, people tend to lash out when you base a prediction on logic if the prediction is something they don't want to hear on an emotional level. 

Hiring additional studios I don't think is going to happen either. Studios are a huge cost/risk in the modern age, buying 2-3 studios isn't like how it used to be and Nintendo fiercly values their small company size, they feel it creates a certain culture, and honestly they might be right about that. Big, bloated companies tend to lose their identity. 



Soundwave said:
Cobretti2 said:
You really are starting to sound like a broken record. I can see why Rol got pissed of and risked a ban.

What will having new hardware released early solve? That alone is not enough.

Nintendo needs to first have enough games in development for the next console launch window without delays to get the console of two a flying start, at least two years of dev time to have decent games and 10 games in the first 3 month window. They also need to get more studios to become sell sufficient covering all genres or to moneyhat developers for games. They need to get to a point were there is at least 3 good games coming out each month.

Without games the console is just gonna end up another Wii U with even more pissed of gamers who bought the console.


Nintendo can't support two distinct hardware platforms period any longer IMO. Those days are over and it was only kind of possible with the Wii-DS because they basically re-used the GameCube chip for a further 6 years and DS development was considerably smaller than 3DS development. 

Even then they really couldn't even support the Wii/DS in unison by generation's end. 

So this idea that they can support discreet PS4-level console + a PS3 level handheld ... is IMO a massive fantasy that's going to be a rude awakening for some when they actually see what NX is. But we'll see, that's just my take on it, people tend to lash out when you base a prediction on logic if the prediction is something they don't want to hear on an emotional level. 

Hiring additional studios I don't think is going to happen either. Studios are a huge cost/risk in the modern age, buying 2-3 studios isn't like how it used to be and Nintendo fiercly values their small company size, they feel it creates a certain culture, and honestly they might be right about that. Big, bloated companies tend to lose their identity. 


ok let me rephrase my statement to one line.

tell me what games will be ready to launch in 2016 with this hardware that will make millions of people rush in a mad rage to get one?

 

edit: i didn't even mention they need two sets of hardware. I just don't think they are ready in 2016 to launch something even if its the fuson without the games to sell it.



 

 

Around the Network
Cobretti2 said:
You really are starting to sound like a broken record. I can see why Rol got pissed of and risked a ban.

What will having new hardware released early solve? That alone is not enough.

Nintendo needs to first have enough games in development for the next console launch window without delays to get the console of two a flying start, at least two years of dev time to have decent games and 10 games in the first 3 month window. They also need to get more studios to become sell sufficient covering all genres or to moneyhat developers for games. They need to get to a point were there is at least 3 good games coming out each month.

Without games the console is just gonna end up another Wii U with even more pissed of gamers who bought the console.


Hes only stating facts. No need to get so worked up. Whatever NX is, it has to come out soon.



"Say what you want about Americans but we understand Capitalism.You buy yourself a product and you Get What You Pay For."  

- Max Payne 3

alternine said:
Cobretti2 said:
You really are starting to sound like a broken record. I can see why Rol got pissed of and risked a ban.

What will having new hardware released early solve? That alone is not enough.

Nintendo needs to first have enough games in development for the next console launch window without delays to get the console of two a flying start, at least two years of dev time to have decent games and 10 games in the first 3 month window. They also need to get more studios to become sell sufficient covering all genres or to moneyhat developers for games. They need to get to a point were there is at least 3 good games coming out each month.

Without games the console is just gonna end up another Wii U with even more pissed of gamers who bought the console.


Hes only stating facts. No need to get so worked up. Whatever NX is, it has to come out soon.

You need to go read the definition of Fact and Opinion then.



Follow my Gaming and Graphics Business on facebook and on Twitter:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=101878997952596&ref=br_rs

https://twitter.com/KellyGGWD

Soundwave said:
zorg1000 said:

The general consensus seems to be that 3DS is getting a successor in Q4 2016/Q1 2017, which gives it roughly the same length life as DS, so u made a thread dedicated to the select few people who for some reason believed 3DS would have a 7+ year life without a successor?


I don't think 3DS can have even a 6 year cycle.

5+ year cycles are supposed to be reserved really for platforms that are 100+ million sellers or have extremely strong second half lifecycle sales like the PS3/360 did (because they both started off fairly expensive and early in the cycle of HDTV adoption). 

Like i said, Holiday 2016 is a very, very likely release window for 3DS successor (5.75 years).

3DS in 2014 sold roughly 3.1 million in Japan, this year is currently down 10%, even if that slips down to 20% than 3DS will likely sell 2.5 million in Japan this year. They can afford to just left it scrape along in the first few quarters of 2016 while they build hype for the successor over the holidays.

Again, I don't know where ur going with this.....



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

alternine said:
Cobretti2 said:
You really are starting to sound like a broken record. I can see why Rol got pissed of and risked a ban.

What will having new hardware released early solve? That alone is not enough.

Nintendo needs to first have enough games in development for the next console launch window without delays to get the console of two a flying start, at least two years of dev time to have decent games and 10 games in the first 3 month window. They also need to get more studios to become sell sufficient covering all genres or to moneyhat developers for games. They need to get to a point were there is at least 3 good games coming out each month.

Without games the console is just gonna end up another Wii U with even more pissed of gamers who bought the console.


Hes only stating facts. No need to get so worked up. Whatever NX is, it has to come out soon.

I am worked up cause he been chanting the same crap for weeks now. Consoles need games to sell that is a fact.

Unless Nintendo decided in 2014 that Wii U is a failure they will simple have sweet F all games ready for the launch of NX if it comes in 2016.

Part of Wii U's problem with consumers is that it doesn't have enough games. Releasing a new turd to hide and old one isn't going to magically make people buy it without some sort of incentive.



 

 

EricFabian said:
Soundwave said:


Too late for that, Japanese third parties avoid Wii U like the plague. 

DQXI is likely for the PS3/PS4 IMO and once that's announced it will cause a lot more Japanese titles for the PS4 to be announced. 


Is not too late. Nintendo just need to pay, like SOny did with PS3. Is pretty simple


I agree with this to some degree- its partially Nintendo's fault that the 3rd parties aren't there. beyond the terrible marketing for the Wii U probably turning them off, generally a big console developer has to pay off SOME third parties. Sony does it constantly, Microsoft/Xbox not so much, but I mean the number of exclusives from third parties for Sony is fascinating. bear in mind a lot of the cases are where Sony has purchased exclusivity 

  probably Sony often does this because they do not have a lot of their own strong IPs, but I don't see why Nintendo doesn't pay off a few third party developers to put some bigger adult themed franchises on their systems

I know Nintendo likes to just rely on their own goods and that they are pretty safe financially, but it would be nice to see them actually fight harder to get third parties on their consoles. as the old addage goes, you have to spend money to make money