I have a quick question. Am I the only one who thinks it isn't racist to say no to immigrants? Not for my case, as an American, but for pretty much any other country. By what right does any arab or chinese have to live in France or Germany? There is no reason why any Frenchman or German should let any Turk or Japanese or whatever live in their country other than the kindness of their own heart. There is no reason why the Japanese should let any American or Australian live in their land outside of the kindness of their own heart. I know I'm oversimplifying the problem, but I guess I'm just baffled when people act like it's some kind of right to be able to move wherever you want with impunity. If Austria decides they don't want Arabs... tough titties. With America, I think it's different but that's another story. American exceptionalism!

People are people, but even people aren't always as good as we like to think we are, besides loving and compasionate we are greedy, arrogant, wage war amongst eachother, destroy the planet and every non human creature living on it and opress. Besides not every human is the same or want to be treated the same as another human if I did that I would insult many people on a daily basis, giving hands, celebrating santa since wishing merry christmas is not done for some cultures, black pete et cetera, for example what is very normal to one culture might be very insulting towards another, which is exactly the problem and is why some cultures better couldn't be mixed in to great numbers, creating tension and cultural wriction

As long as that party has a lot to offer what you want, which very well could be the case in Europe than yeah I guess quite a lot of people wil vote for that party since quite a lot feel opressed (whether that is justified is another discussion) and if there is a party standing up for their rights should'n you vote for that party?  The Christian political parties in Europe have few to offer these days we have churches the religion is widely accepted, yet declining since atheism is growing among young people and there primal concerns are about whether shops should be open on sunday and anticonception. But please enlight which Christian group has caused something like 9/11 or blowing up a london metro the since 2000, which isn't a goverment.

You must be better educated than the likes of Hans kelsen? The op indicates the opposite though, and I didn't see you arguing with that negative view, that Islam will somehow, against precedent, force itself upon us all successfully. From the post of have seen from you across all forums, you enjoy negativity and conflict. I don't and I guarantee that I am more educated on this topic than you are.

what I say is absurdly reductive? Yet what you say is probable?

I'm seriously confused to why anyone should fear things which are to do with our created by Muslims.

Halal and kosher meat is optional for people to eat and no one is forced to have it. Stunning animals can be just as cruel if not more than not stunning. People who think otherwise clearly only read into one side of the story.

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/CAMPAIGNS/slaughter/ALL///

Secondly, a huge blame lies in ignorance and miseducation thanks to propaganda,political agendas and stupidity. Muslims for a long time have been condemning the actions of terrorists and out right telling the west the groups are non Muslim as they violate shariah and Islamic teachings but people have ignored it. As a result everyday Muslims get attacked from all fronts. Groups like Al Qaeeda, IS etc have been around for 1400+ years and to date have killed more Muslims than any government, tribe and or group out there. They are called Khawarij and until people recognise this, they will continue blaming the wrong group and empowering the terrorists. You cannot solve a problem if you are looking in the wrong place to begin with.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khawarij

Last but not least, this is a gaming forum. I've been a game since I was 6 and i'm 33 now. I read comics, books, watch films and series like anyone else. I'm a geek through abd through and I hate that my favorite hobby and past time of 27years is now going through this phase of "Islam this" and "Islam that. "

The last place I expect to see making silly uneducated comments about things they know little to nothing of, with one sided biased arguements would be here ; a forum about video games, where people who live gaming come together to enjoy their gaming hobbies and interests.

The biggest threat to the west is ignorance, lack of education and cultures, acceptance, superiority complex and seeing fear everywhere even in places where they shouldn't, thereby creating fear and disharmony. This problem isn't exclusive to the west, or the east, it is a human issue and everyone needs to play their part.

People don't fear Islam when they eat kebabs, sharwarma, when they go see Muhammed ali, when they use algebra, when they go to university (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_al-Qarawiyyin), they don't fear Islam or Muslims when it comes to medical sciences and astronomy.

The arguement here will become that those things are not Islam related as they are culture, science and education related and Islam has nothing to do with it. The problem there is that it is Islam related. Science and education are some of the core teachings of the faith and both go hand in hand.

You cannot use the argument one way and not the other just because it won't have a negative connotation of applied fairly across the board.

What should really be asked here is, why can't people differentiate between Islam and the Khawarij, why do people feel they have to eat halal when they don't, why has halal never been a problem until now, since stunning is just as cruel where is the arguement for that, why do you fear things you know such little about and then make things up without understanding context hoping it will make things better, and if there is such hostility and hate towards Muslims and Islam on this site, then why not just make an open statement to say Muslims and their kind are not welcome here as this is exactly how many Muslims feel reading the nonsense that gets said about them.

Individuals from any faith or no faith should not need to have their hobbies compromised because people think they have a right to talk nonsense about other people's beliefs and the moderators need to make a simple decision about whether threads that allow uneducated opinions on people's beliefs should be accepted and threads that encourage this should be allowed.

Not counting two world wars originating in the midst of Europe there have been a lot of "movements" that has scared the shit out of middle class europeans:
communism
suffragets (femminism)
emancipation
secularization
unions
collapse of imperialism
Cold War (nuclear threat)
IRA
RAF (Rote Armee Fraktion - Baader-Meinhof Group )
ETA (Basque National Liberation Movement)
Skinheads
Neo-fascists
Breakdown of the Iron Curtain
EU-extension to eastern europe (mass immigration of poor people)
Saddam Hussein
Muammar Gaddafi
Argentina (Falkland Islands - Islas Malvinas)
Ayatollah Khomein
Soviet
Putin
China

In essence - we, the europeans are allways afraid of something, because we are so meek, humble, submissive and tolerant!

We the Europeans? "We" are dozens of different races. Please don't speak for me as meek or submissive. You can only speak for yourself.Everyone here has the same problem and the prominent problem with the world. People making rash generalizations. Categorizing people is just plain ignorant. Having lived in Europe and the usa, I have met more submissive people in the usa, but I would never make this kind of ridiculous statement. just as most of the people here are making massive generalizations about a religion of 1 billion people. ( I should say a group of religions just like within Christianity there are insane cults. But hey, that must mean all Christians are insane) 

i recently received an email from an old American bigot in relation to "Europeans" and what the evil Europeans did to the Jews. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's wrong with this statement but it's the same thing that's wrong with all the statements here. 

The main problem of mankind and especially the most civilized men is that they think all human life is more or less equal and somehow sacred even if they are not religious. Meanwhile we have true barbarians ready to take over the most advanced civilizations. Mankind and it's legacy must be protected. Our children must be protected. Islam should not be feared for you can't hunt a beast if you fear it. Mankind itself is more important than one of it's instinctive values, we now need to be more rational than ever.

"Islam is newer than Christianity." As if a religion being 2000 years old vs. "only" 1400 years old is in any way meaningful. The state of a religion at any given time has been shaped by a thousand factors, and age is relatively meaningless aside from older religions having more time to produce schismatics.

I'm not sure what you mean about what I said being probable since I didn't predict anything.

There should really be a universal satire/irony punctuation! 

I agree wholeheartedly with all your remarks. The sentance was meant to ridicule the scared WASPs of europe that with one hand endorse massive sales of military equipment to anyone with cash and with the other hand tries to protect their "innocence".

This was in gaming discussion why, exactly?