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Ruler said:
Johnw1104 said:


Disney is worth far more than Sony actually.

For instance, Sony's ENT value (a theoretical value for how much it would cost to purchase a company with all assets and debts considered) currently sits at about $30 billion. By comparison, Disney's value is currently about $188 billion.

That said, Disney would have no interest acquiring sony itself with its debts and struggling manufacturing segments (which are a huge chunk of the greater conglomerate).

They might have interest in Sony Pictures/SOE/Playstation etc, but that'd be about it.

-sony makes 64 billion $ revenue, disney only 58 billion

-sony has 120 billion $ assets disney only 80 billion

-sony has only 6 billion debt

-Disneys value is overblown by FEDs qutative easing, it will go down and their 188 Billion $

bubble will burst if no will use the dollar soon or if the fed stops this programm

-sony is japanese company its not allowed to be bought by americans

you are skewing those numbers a lot. Sony have 120 billion in liabilities and $140 billion in assets leaving them with equity of around 20 billion. hence their share price giving them a valuation of about 30 billion. You make it sound like they are a huge healthy company when that simply isn't true. If they only had 6 billion in debt and liabilities while a 100+ billion in assets then companies all over the world would be fighting to buy them out just to strip the assets and make a cool 100 billion profit.

http://balance-sheets.findthecompany.com/l/1363/Sony-Corporation



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DonFerrari said:
Errr that is at most speculation about Disney being interested in buy if Sony wants to sell, nothing close to even a rumor.

This is like saying that because MS bought rare they are preparing to buy Nintendo.

 I agree that this rumor is probably like many other rumors, just made up.  

But, unlike me or you looking at something that just happened and coming to your second statements conclusion, this article CLAIMS to have a source.  The validity of the source is not known, but thats the point of a rumor.



It is near the end of the end....

nanarchy said:
Ruler said:

-sony makes 64 billion $ revenue, disney only 58 billion

-sony has 120 billion $ assets disney only 80 billion

-sony has only 6 billion debt

-Disneys value is overblown by FEDs qutative easing, it will go down and their 188 Billion $

bubble will burst if no will use the dollar soon or if the fed stops this programm

-sony is japanese company its not allowed to be bought by americans

you are skewing those numbers a lot. Sony have 120 billion in liabilities and $140 billion in assets leaving them with equity of around 20 billion. hence their share price giving them a valuation of about 30 billion. You make it sound like they are a huge healthy company when that simply isn't true. If they only had 6 billion in debt and liabilities while a 100+ billion in assets then companies all over the world would be fighting to buy them out just to strip the assets and make a cool 100 billion profit.

http://balance-sheets.findthecompany.com/l/1363/Sony-Corporation

the point you made is quite correct, the other point is they would in all likely hood fail in their try to take over. that link on how to buy a japanese company..look over it real close and you can see why a company the size of Sony in japan has never been and i doubt ever will be taken over by the west centric companies of hedge funds. be that by hostile take over which most likely will completely fail, and as for a break up of parts of the company, also because Sony is moving more of its assets that make money for the company to protected parts that to be on point would not only requirerather large number of cash notes on hand. But also require the current board of Directors to be deposed including Kaz, top it off the majority of votes for a merger or aquisition vote for a non japanese investor or hedge fund with the cash on hand to do so on such a attempt would also have to deal with the 130,000+ employed workers that on such an attept would have to mostlikey be retained by large  numbers and by long time employed by the buyer for such time!

The overhead expense, the sheer number of people employed and the companies over all debt, and on top of it on such a market view being seen as "vultures" by the japanese market shows exactly why in the past of 40 years, that no japanese  core country built owned and held company on japan that size has ever been, and again i doubt ever will be bought out by non Japanese, just too many employed japanese people mainly and to ask for japan to let that happen is like saying we let Honda or japan to buy out GM or GE or Microsoft. etc.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

Lol yeah! Definitely happening! Super likely!



so is rumor the new bold prediction: Can I start posting threads again?



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It's Sony Pictures, not Sony.



Lot of mistakes in this thread al around.
1. Sony pictures is an American company. It is a subsidiary yes, but it can be bought by another american company. Just like how Sony Online Entertainment was just purchased.
2. Someone said Sony Music Entertainment is nothing. SME is the largest music publisher in the world. ANd currently holds the second largest music catalog in the world. If it was meant that Disney has no interest in music, that is incorrect. They launched justin timberlake, jessica simpson, britney spears, ryan gosling, christina aguilera.
3. Disney acquiring Sony Pictures would not make them a monopoly.
4. Someone said vgc is a website dedicated to speculations and parsed words and rumors. This is not true. VGC is a sales analysis site. Some people make it seem like they are really bad at it, but let's not take the bad examples and brand the site as a bunch of people pulling numbers out of a hat.
5. Someone said "sony pictures makes profit, aside from the interview". It's more likely that interview made more money overall than it would have by itself, and probably will profit in the end.
6. Disney COULD buy sony pictures and be fine. It's just a risky venture. Disney is really efficient. Sony pictures is not. If Disney wanted games, they would be more apt to buy a similar company like nintendo.



I'm gonna have nightmares for months with "Disney acquiring Sony" scenarios.



Disney is a company as bad as monsanto. id consider to stop buying playstation stuff.



must-have-list for platforms i don't own yet:

WiiU: Donkey Kong

XBone: Dead Rising 3, Ryse

theprof00 said:
Lot of mistakes in this thread al around.
1. Sony pictures is an American company. It is a subsidiary yes, but it can be bought by another american company. Just like how Sony Online Entertainment was just purchased.
2. Someone said Sony Music Entertainment is nothing. SME is the largest music publisher in the world. ANd currently holds the second largest music catalog in the world. If it was meant that Disney has no interest in music, that is incorrect. They launched justin timberlake, jessica simpson, britney spears, ryan gosling, christina aguilera.
3. Disney acquiring Sony Pictures would not make them a monopoly.
4. Someone said vgc is a website dedicated to speculations and parsed words and rumors. This is not true. VGC is a sales analysis site. Some people make it seem like they are really bad at it, but let's not take the bad examples and brand the site as a bunch of people pulling numbers out of a hat.
5. Someone said "sony pictures makes profit, aside from the interview". It's more likely that interview made more money overall than it would have by itself, and probably will profit in the end.
6. Disney COULD buy sony pictures and be fine. It's just a risky venture. Disney is really efficient. Sony pictures is not. If Disney wanted games, they would be more apt to buy a similar company like nintendo.

SOE was sold by sony themselfs