Who is in this gaming world you speak of?, are you reffering to markets per chance?, because I'd imagine that's what it'd be down to.

I like what Nintendo makes more or less currently, I don't on the other hand like what Sony's making at the moment and a little bit of MS too but here's the thing, you want them to adapt which judging by most threads about Nintendo talk is for them to be exactly like Sony and MS which technically means going after their exact markets, problem is what happens to the other markets that aren't being targeted, that were suddenly left to shrivel?.

Where will I get those games I love that Nintendo makes if they are to be exactly like Sony/MS?, my type of games I'd love would be dropped like a hat (you know like RTS has been for the past 6 years if not longer) and then I'd have less games to play and less of a reason to buy a console and just stick with PC but in the end that would be the specific market's fault that everyone tells Nintendo to chase, I like Nintendo doing what they do because they don't give much of a fuck and aren't forcing themselves to chase the biggest money maker market while forgetting those around them.

Yeah Sony and MS have sold a lot but there's still 6-7 billion of us on the planet, still loads more people left out from the big 3's markets, if they were all the same it would be even worse than before, I'd rather let Nintendo do their thing, you guys don't seem to tell Sony what to do these days, I see people being quite comfortable with what they're doing despite some of us not having an interest or not liking their offerings, I don't see people taking that in and asking Sony to aid those markets.

I still have no idea what you're suggesting Nintendo is doing so selfishly. What are you suggesting Nintendo do, moneyhat third party devs and publishers to get multiplatform games onto Wii U? That would be the exact opposite of smart. I could understand if you're saying Nintendo should work closer with third parties (oh by the way, who saved Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third, and funded the Wonderful 101? Who allowed the use of the Mario IP in Tekken Tag 2? Who allows all developers to push out free patches and updates to their games? Who worked with Tecmo and funded Other M and Ninja Gaiden: Razor's Edge? I've got more), but if you're saying kowtow to the demands of publishers like Activision and EA, you can forget it. That's how we wind up with Origin on Nintendo's network, and things like online passes, no used games or other insane DRM policies, and games broken at launch but workable just enough to allow us to buy Day-1 DLC. That's also how we wind up with three superexpensive triplet consoles that barely set themselves apart from each other, and become little more than AC, Madden and COD machines because no one can afford to take a chance on anything not guaranteed to sell at least 8 million copies.

Are you saying the Wii U is a difficult console to program for? I hear that it's stylistically similar to the 360, and Ubisoft has gone on record saying a port should cost less than 1 million USD to put something from PS360 on it. This is the same company that did the Watch_Dogs bait-and-switch, screwed up Assassin's Creed Rogue and made the buggiest version of Tetris ever, on PS4, mind you.

You got me all wrong, I don't want Ninitendo to start kissing any 3rd parties' ass and start accepting any BS thing they throw at them just for the sake of having a game that would sell on their console, Nintendo shouldn't moneyhat anyone, 3rd parties should come willingly without fear of their proyect failing to make business with Nintendo, that's what I wanna see. What I mean when I say that Nintendo built the Wii and Wii U for their use exclusively I mean just that, any other game that could appear on the console and didn't have anything Nintendo behind it was on its own, since for Nintendo, their console shouldn't revolve around those games, their consoles aren't built with that in mind. While in the other hand, Sony and Microsoft knew that they couldn't possibly survive in the market as a big gaming titan all on their own, so they tried to make the developing scene for their consoles inviting, they guarantee that these 3rd parties' proyects have a chance to be successful, something that a small Nintendo-centric user-base and a trickier to program console can't guaratee, even if making a Wii U port isn't all that expensive, it can be unnacesarily time consuming and with a user-base like the Wii U's it can be hard to make a profit off, granted, this is Nintendo's and the 3rd party's fault since most likely they wouldn't care to advertise the thing, but still, you need to recognize that it's hard to sell a port of a game without no visual differences on a console you don't own when most people could buy the same game on a console they already own, PS4 and XOne versions of games don't fall under this because most likely there's a pretty huge difference when it comes to graphics between the 7th and 8th generation version of the same game, and because the PS4  and XOne had proper advertizing that made the public think that they were actually next gen, something that the Wii U never had.

To sum it up, I think that Nintendo doesn't need to "give in", I just think that they need to start to realize that 3rd parties should be the ones asking for their games to be on their console, not the other way around, Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third only exist because Nintendo funded them, I don't count that as WILLING 3rd party support, Nintendo shouldn't feel the need to fund games to fill a 3rd party void, the void shouldn't exist in the first place, and Nintendo should just fund games they find promise on.

I don't think that Nintendo's games should be affected at all, they still can be unique, colorful, creative. The only thing I want from Nintendo to change is their philosophy while building their consoles, and their marketing strategy, those are the only things I want completely changed. Not only to my and other Nintendo fans' benefit, but to their benefit as well, as that would bring a lot more of a wider audience.

You don't see anyone trying to tell Sony or Microsoft what to do? Well, people actually do, in fact, they do it now more than ever. How many people you see telling Sony that they want a new Jak game? That Sony should buy Crash back? That they should improve their online services? How many times we'd seen people complaining that Xbox doesn't have worth-while exclusives until they eventually started to make amends to that with XOnes' more diverse library? Same thing with the DRM fiasco. It's called feedback.

It's cool that you like that Nintendo is going hipster n' stuff, but not everyone is in your position, not everyone can afford 2 systems to play games with and maybe even the time they game doesn't even justify buying 2 different systems each gen. I , for example, would absolutely love to buy a Nintendo system without the fear of being left out of all the 3rd party experiences I might enjoy, which outnumber Ninty 10 to 1.

I don't think anyone wants Nintendo to fail, or thinks it would be a good thing. Nintendo going third party, and Nintendo dying are two VERY different things.

Nintendo would make way less $$$$ if they went third party. what is the benefit for them?

Micrsoft and Sony are very inefficient in terms of producing their systems and monotizing off of sales. The odds are Nintendo makes more from their handheld divison + Wii U division in profits than either Sony and Microsoft due from their video game division this generation, despite potential massive lead in hardware sales

you don't know what you're talking about whatsoever

spec wise in several categories the Nintendo 64 actually is better than the Playstation 1. It also has aged MUCH better

also the Gamecube (and Xbox) were far superior spec wise to the PS2. The Xbox was more powerful than the Gamecube, however the Gamecube did have a few categories in which it is actually technichally better than the Xbox

the only system in which Nintendo's platform was drastically weaker than the competition was the Wii, and that was obviously in favor of focusing on a motion control component. The Wii U also to a degree

I really don't care about Nintendos financials. I was solely talking about benefits for me.

Ninty's demise would be a huge loss. They are an important part of gaming because they have their unique approach at it, it would be nearly impossible to replace them completely, just like on a smaller scale great defunct studios of the past can't be completely replaced even if their people keep on working elsewhere, just think about Looking Glass, Psygnosis, Bullfrog, Origin and others and think about how many of their masterpiece series were dumbed down or in the best cases turned into very different things that just keep the name of their ancestors (I don't say that the latter are bad, but being made those new ways they actually are different games with old, glorious names, while the original series and inspirations are lost forever even if it wasn't time for them to die yet, just think about Thief, Deus Ex, Fallout, Syndicate...)

This, i like some of their games but not enough to buy their hardware anymore.  After SNES it was all down hill.