Doubt it, it will probably sell well but nothing rediculously huge.

You know we need something from nintendo that is on the scale of Zelda, without actually being called zelda or mario.

Yes make zelda games, and mario, but make those interesting new big games throughout.

There arent many significant new ip's from Nintendo which I look at and say "Whoa thats something new - I need that"
Splatoon looks fun, but it doesnt make me scream "I need that in my life now"

But look at Sony, if we are talking about news ip's which have generated interest - "Bloodborne, Order" are just the beginning of a large list of sony published titles, so much more if you think of third party sony-published titles like david jaffe's game, tomorrow children etc.

and all while still making their old ip's like uncharted, infamous and god of war. That balance of new and classic is what has made sony race ahead, and nintendo fart behind.

I think they need more western devs to work on new stuff. They do develop new stuff from Japan but alot of its falls under th cute/quircky territory (Wonderful 101, Splatoon). Thats cool and splatoon might evolve into a big franchise but we need another Rare to produce stuff like Golden Eye, Perfect Dark, action/sport simulators and produce games that aren't afraid to compete with Mario like Banjo, Diddy Kong racing.

original and strong ip like what? i think there's plenty of that on the wii u. what's the original and strong ip on the xbone/ps4? i can only think of sunset overdrive on the former.

WII U New IP's published by Nintendo
Wonderful 101
Hyrule Warriors (kind of)
Captain Toad Treasure Tracker (kind of)
Splatoon
Project Giant Robot
Project Guard
Devils Third (i'll give them that)

PS4 New IP's published by Sony
Knack
Doki-Doki
Resogun
Driveclub
CounterSpy
Entwined
Hohokum
Bloodborne
The order 1886
Until Dawn
Hell Divers
The Tomorrow Children
Kill Strain
Guns Up
Alienation
Drawn 2 Death
Everybody's gone to the rapture
Rime
Wattam
What Remains of Edith Finch
WiLD

A few AAA's in there, and a few from 2nd/3rd party studios.
And in less time.

Nintendo's issue is when they come up with a unique idea, they have to stick a mario on it, or one of there wide array of characters.

You made-up the list?

made some pertinent notes on metacritic scores. also:

pushmo world

nes remix 1+2 (and possible snes remix)

mario maker (new whether you like it or not)

shovel knight (since you're including indies)

affordable space adventures

sportsball

runbow

a.n.n.e.

beatbuddy

about 'sticking mario' into or onto things, i'd say that's just savvy marketing. when we talk about 'new ip' it's an incredibly legalistic and small-bore way of looking at it. what you want are not necessarily new faces with the same old gameplay, but new gameplay ideas regardless of what the skin on it is, mario or whatever. metroid prime is not 'new ip' technically, but it was completely different from super metroid; super mario 64 or galaxy were not 'new ip' neccessarily, but were radically different from super mario world, and all three were revolutionary for the industry in their own way. right now the only 'original and strong ip' on ps4 i'd play is resogun, and that was a free downloadable title at launch...

I did say nintendo-published titles, rules out shovel knight.

Metacritic is bullshit, if you live your life judging games by what other people say about them, then you arent gonna play some of the best games out there.

Mario maker - not a new ip since it's mario.

My point is - New IP's sell consoles, or atleast generate a REASON to buy a console over another.

And you're blind if you cant see that. "basically dead souls 3" Well then battlefield is basically cod, and EA sports tennis is basically virtua tennis.

People, not like you, more like me, when they see mario on yet another title, are put off. 
Cause some people really want new experiences.
New worlds new characters.

Two of the biggest selling games this gen have been new ip's. Watch_Dogs and Destiny.

It's the reason wii u is failing and will continue to fail if nintendo just publishes 'mario sequels' from wii, ds, nes, n64 era etc. 

Driveclub didnt review well. People still bought it, a lot of people bought it.
Why? Cause it's a new experience. A new title that offers something new rather than an updated version of an old game.

Games dont have to be 90+ on metacritic to be good.

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Open your eyes. As a wii u fan, you need to accept it. Because it's the only way nintendo will accept it and change their business for the better.
They need to start creating new worlds in their own studio, and partner with smaller studios to publish their new worlds.

if you think the problem is with mario, and not the console launch/market positioning, then you're misguided.

mario sold 11m copies of galaxy, 8m copies of galaxy 2, 30+m copies of mario kart, 12+m copies of ssb brawl... let's not kid ourselves. in the list of bestselling franchises, the top five let's say, pokémon, mario and company are at the very top. the only series that comes close is grand theft auto. but this is no longer relevant to the topic, you're just grinding your axe at this point. watch dogs was a p.o.s., and so was destiny. reviews confirm as much. that's certainly not in dispute. and the best part is the dlc for both reviewed even worse, whereas the dlc for mk8 got the same scores as the whole game.

i'm not going to continue this argument, because it's not one worth having.

And the wii u versions arent going to touch those numbers.

The problem is not mario, the problem is nintendos lack of innovation.

Old IPS are cool, and nintendo makes the most fun games, but they arent selling points for the console anymore for the non-nintendo-fan market.

PS4 has sold double of what wii u sold in half the time, because it has three things
1) New IP's
2) Classic IP's
3) Healthy amount of 3rd party games

And as long as nintendo fans cant accept that, #2 is all you'll get.