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Fusioncode on 23 December 2014
Seece said:
bigjon said:
MS never has or never will care about gamers. They always quit supporting their old console 12-24 months prior to the next consoles release, and as soon as they thought they had a stranglehold on the console market they announced the terrible "pre-180" policies. If it were not for Sony's strong showing XB1 fans would be dealing with that BS right now. It weird this GEN, even the biggest MS fanboy has to be gratefull to Sony this GEN.

If MS ever gets in a dominent position again expect more anti consumer policies to follow shortly after.

That's funny. What does Sony have for PS3 in 2015 that matches Forza Horizon 2, Titanfall, Fable Anniversary and Max Curse of Brotherhood?

2013 was the send off year for the PS3. God of War Ascension, The Last of Us, Gran Turismo 6, Beyond Two Souls, Dragon's Crown, Sly 4, and so on. But PS3 owners did get LBP3 in 2014. Personally I'm not a big fan of cross gen games in general and I'd rather everything be next gen exclusive once the new consoles are out. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

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Aeolus451 on 23 December 2014
LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

The  initiative from Ms to follow sonys ten year plan is the only reason  the 360 is being supported. It was during Shane kims time as the head of xbox. If it wasn't for him following Sony the Xbox generations would've ended much sooner. The whole point of their existence  is to be a thorn in Sony's side until they stop each generational  strand of production . 

1. I have corrected you on this before, Sony did not invent any "10 year plan". Other consoles have had support for 10 years before Sony did it (if Sony in fact has ever done it, idk).

2. Even if you were correct here (you aren't), all your post is saying is basically that I am 100% right, MS is in fact still supporting the 360. So thanks!


The ps1 and ps2 were supported for over ten years. They did "invent" or followed a ten year plan since their first console.  MS followed suit for the most part. No big deal. I don't think nintendo nor sega ever ran a console that long.



S.T.A.G.E. on 24 December 2014
iTechHeads said:
They're intention is to make a lot of money just like any other company.
The way they're trying to do it is something I'm not a fan of. I don't like the Windows 8 interface. I don't want it on a console. I don't like Microsoft having to use DDR3 memory just so I can run Windows apps on my console. There really aren't any good Windows apps out there.


Their goal is to get dominate all OS markets especially those which control multimedia. Upon seeing Sony's domination of the gaming market they saw blood in the water and once Sony decided not to work with them they became a threat. They should've known Sega wouldn't last the way they were going.



S.T.A.G.E. on 24 December 2014
Aeolus451 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

1. I have corrected you on this before, Sony did not invent any "10 year plan". Other consoles have had support for 10 years before Sony did it (if Sony in fact has ever done it, idk).

2. Even if you were correct here (you aren't), all your post is saying is basically that I am 100% right, MS is in fact still supporting the 360. So thanks!


The ps1 and ps2 were supported for over ten years. They did "invent" or followed a ten year plan since their first console.  MS followed suit for the most part. No big deal. I don't think nintendo nor sega ever ran a console that long.


I've shown them proof of this. They will just deny it over and over until they come up with some excuse in their heads. This is why I opted not to respond. They'll do anything to justify flipping the script. If Sony had no ten year plan, MS wouldn't either. Anyone can look up what Shane Kim said in the past about copying the ten year plan. Its been a while (2008 since he said it) so you might need to dig a little more, but the proof isnt out of reach. I've shown it before and they've still denied or rationalized things without proof of their own to provide.



iTechHeads on 24 December 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
iTechHeads said:
They're intention is to make a lot of money just like any other company.
The way they're trying to do it is something I'm not a fan of. I don't like the Windows 8 interface. I don't want it on a console. I don't like Microsoft having to use DDR3 memory just so I can run Windows apps on my console. There really aren't any good Windows apps out there.


Their goal is to get dominate all OS markets especially those which control multimedia. Upon seeing Sony's domination of the gaming market they saw blood in the water and once Sony decided not to work with them they became a threat. They should've known Sega wouldn't last the way they were going.

Well they're doing a pretty crappy job. XB! is playing catch up to the PS4 and Windows is losing marketshare to Mac. Windows Phone marketshare is embarrasingly low.

It's time to maybe admit that this OS they're trying push doesn't belong EVERYWHERE ON EVERYTHING. I'd rahter have a unique OS speciically designed for each and every device.



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Moneybags on 24 December 2014

MS doesn't give a damn! Remember when they bought those jrpgs (The last Remnant) time bought others(Star Ocean) to die on their console. That really ticked me off! Growing up I loved any company in electronics and software. Since 360 tho I've hated that blood sucking company.



Puppyroach on 24 December 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:

How long has it been since Sony has been trying to catch up to Halo? Seriously...don't you think they've given up by now? They are much better at the TPS genre and thats why they've been pouring money into that.

As far as I know, Killzone celebrates 10 years on the market....

And there is a reason Sony even payed Activision so that Xbox owners can´t access all content on our version of the first DLC for Destiny for a year, why it was an exclusive bundle and marketed in alot of ways as a semi-exclusive game for PS4: they want the image of the Halo creator to be connected to the Playstation brand.

You pay to increase market share in different ways, MS does it, Sony does it.



S.T.A.G.E. on 24 December 2014
iTechHeads said:

Well they're doing a pretty crappy job. XB! is playing catch up to the PS4 and Windows is losing marketshare to Mac. Windows Phone marketshare is embarrasingly low.

It's time to maybe admit that this OS they're trying push doesn't belong EVERYWHERE ON EVERYTHING. I'd rahter have a unique OS speciically designed for each and every device.


Microsoft struck oil in the console industry by putting a price on the head of online gaming. SInce PC gaming was already established they denied Microsoft payment for Xbox Live everyone has been wondering how Microsoft would usher their brand of gaming onto PC. We're supposedly going to find out next year. Hopefully, what Phil Spencer has to say is good and wont come at such a great cost to consumers as MS is known for doing.



Legendary_W on 24 December 2014

I feel they care. Microsoft gets too much hate, but I think it's one of the best companies out there. They answered to feedback with XONE disastrous reveal, and they are still making up for it with stuff like monthly updates, good services and apps, good games, etc. Besides, Phil Spencer most of the time says rational things when he talks about Xbox as a whole, so I think he is a man to be trusted.



S.T.A.G.E. on 24 December 2014
Puppyroach said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

How long has it been since Sony has been trying to catch up to Halo? Seriously...don't you think they've given up by now? They are much better at the TPS genre and thats why they've been pouring money into that.

As far as I know, Killzone celebrates 10 years on the market....

And there is a reason Sony even payed Activision so that Xbox owners can´t access all content on our version of the first DLC for Destiny for a year, why it was an exclusive bundle and marketed in alot of ways as a semi-exclusive game for PS4: they want the image of the Halo creator to be connected to the Playstation brand.

You pay to increase market share in different ways, MS does it, Sony does it.

Give it up....Killzone is not facing off against Halo. It was billed by the media as a Halo killer back in the PS2 era, but failed to live up to that. Since then its been doing its own thing.  The saddest thing about Killzone is that everyone who criticized Killzone took it from its unique style with KZ2. They'eve actually tried to make the game play more like COD in the latest KZ so with that your comparison falls flat. Its obvious that right now they are trying to find their groove.

The reason why Sony is paying Activision for content is because they are playing the COD game Microsoft started with them. If you were Sony you would've done it as well seeing that its the same publisher. Microsoft still gets content first on the One and 360 with COD so its not like Sony shouldn't let up now we're all subjected to this on both sides of the tracks. If Microsoft wants to create false perception of exclusivity to something as minor as DLC so can Sony...so don't even go there. Its just the screwed up world of business that both Xbox and Playstation gamers have to live with now, isn't ?