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Puppyroach on 26 December 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Puppyroach said:
bigjon said:
MS never has or never will care about gamers. They always quit supporting their old console 12-24 months prior to the next consoles release, and as soon as they thought they had a stranglehold on the console market they announced the terrible "pre-180" policies. If it were not for Sony's strong showing XB1 fans would be dealing with that BS right now. It weird this GEN, even the biggest MS fanboy has to be gratefull to Sony this GEN.

If MS ever gets in a dominent position again expect more anti consumer policies to follow shortly after.

So, according to you, Nntendo doesn't care for gamers considering the EXTREME lack of support they showed their most successful console, the Wii, even before they announced the WiiU? And both MS and Sony has announced several things that gamers would deem "anti-consumer" (paying for mp would be one thing) yet Sony get a free pass. Interesting :).


Nintendo is the most consumer friendly brand, they just arent third party friendly.

Yeah, well done of you not adressing one single bit of what I wrote :).



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The_Yoda on 26 December 2014
Aeolus451 said:
The_Yoda said:
Aeolus451 said:
 


Once you reach a certain amount of storage space, it's enough. 1tb is plenty. You're just insane with how much data storage you want. You should just delete some the game data of the games you're not playing but kept the save data. I personally just get a decent size ssd and use that. I never have any issues with storage space. I delete the game data of the game I'm no longer playing. Why did you bring up that about used game?

 I have to disagree with you, I just added 4 TB to my WiiU.  1 TB may be enough for you, but you are not everyone, and some of us have different needs. I have a hundred plus games I can launch with a touch. I bought a console to spend time playing games without having to manage memory constantly because I have a data ceiling.  If I wanted to spend a significant amount of time managing things I'd game more frequently on PC.


I think that you're exaggerating with how much time you think you would be spend managing your storage space. I never said that i was everyone. You must buy a lot of digital games.


I do buy a good many digital games. Depending on the size of your collection and how often you are apt to switch between titles it isn't an exaggeration, especially when you can't rip from the disk and have to download to jokey your memory around.  I only have 10 down living out here in the country and am happy to have that.  If I were on a campus or in a major city where I could get 50 to 100 down it might not be as big a deal and less time consuming.



Aeolus451 on 26 December 2014
Gamz said:
Aeolus451 said:


ugh. You didn't look up any vids did you? I was trying to make a point with it. Here's a link to a vid on installing a ssd into a ps4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8_nt2Dwf78 You only have to remove a panel (no screws) and one screw that holds the hdd in place to remove the hdd. it only takes a few minutes to do. Here's a link to a vid on installing a ssd into a xbox one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNXe_nEjoeo You have to take a bunch of stuff out to get to the hdd plus you void the warranty External hdd's are good for transporting data or using it as a backup. It's slower than a typical internal hdd. If you're using it as a upgrade to your internal hdd, it will just make your console slower and download/install speeds slower. What the hell do you need 2 tb for? How much porn do have? Installing an ssd actually improves how fast your console is and your install times. You can get ones with plenty of space on 'em for a decent price. My whole point is that the ps4 doesn't need to use an external hdd because you can upgrade your internal one easily for the same price and it be faster.

The convince of external is so much better.  You can bring your games over to a friends house instead of the whole console.  As for speed the external on the X1 is faster then the internal.  As far as 2TB?  Of course you need it esp with games getting bigger and bigger.  If you are going digital it fills up rather fast.  Not too mention all the games updates and such.


I won't debate with ya about external hdd's convenience or that it's easy to transport around. I agree that if you're playing a lot of digital games, you need more wiggle room with an hdd. It works well as back up too but it is slower than a internal hdd. That's fact, not just my opinion.  Performance wise, it's better to just to upgrade your internal hdd. I do have digital copies of some older games but for new games, i buy just physical copies.



S.T.A.G.E. on 26 December 2014
Puppyroach said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Yeah, well done of you not adressing one single bit of what I wrote :).

Sony doesn't get a free pass...they are in the neutral zone (also known as the lesser evil). Microsoft as a company has always been known as a threat to anyone who is involved in anything they set out to monopolize. Luckily the courts broke apart the company into sectors. Because of the known proclivities of MS Phil Spencer has had to become more transparent in PR about the companies endeavors, which makes people feel the exact opposite way about a company they didnt trust. It doesn't put them at ease, it just makes the product more attractive, which is why I have one in my home.