It will benefit Konami but not Sony, because this coming free with a PS4 will eat into Fifa's sales, something which Sony does not want. They make more money sold from a single non-bundled Fifa copy compared to a single bundled copy from PES, so this will not benefit Sony, only Konami.

Also:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/pro-evolution-soccer-2015

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/fifa-15

PES isn't better now, they are equal.

i'm merely answering the replies put forward to me. no need for the defensive post. 

MS arguable has better exclusives but they're paying money to make multiplatform 3rd party titles exclusive instead of developing their own. Case in point Tomb Raider. Sony go out and create uncharted. MS go and buy a multi game for timed exclusiveness. 

Obviously EA knew that but the price paid was about a half to a 3rd of what it would of been if they knew what a monster the PS4 would be. 

It's not going to benefit Sony much, I never said that but if done the way I said it can benefit both parties more than the current situation is. Have you not read all my posts and the OP? If so you should have picked that up. 

What right would ea have to be pissed if they released exclusive content and bundle on X1 even knowing it is the worst seller plus a lot of exclusives were negotiated with MS. Do you think ea or sony would lose more if they skip a fifa from sony? I bet ea would burn a lot reasoning it by being pissed of exclusive pes and bundle than sony for not securing fifa, besides PR nightmare.

No, I was explaining the 3rd party games that companies seek out for exclusivity are often desired by consumers of a competiting platform. Bayonetta 2 is a good example of that as well.

You somehow came to conclusion MS does that because their 1st party is weak, that's a ridiculous response. Their 1st party is strong and they can afford to do some moneyhatting, like Sony did when they had more money.

I think Titanfall was a bad move by EA. Not just because PS4 is popular, but because that game should have been made to as big of audience as possible. Even Playstation exclusivity would have been a bad move. I see Playstation fans being bitter about not getting Titanfall and try to spin it as a bad game.

If the PES series continues to grow in quality the situation for Konami will get better without help from Sony. Or maybe MS should moneyhat PES if the series grows in popularity. They can afford it.

You're the one who brought up Sunset to try and counter my point. I am merely explaining to you why it's a flawed comparison.

I really can't explain it any simpler. If Sony doesn't try and entice Konami to make a PES bundle, they are getting the game anyway. If MS did not try and entice Insomniac, they were not going to get Sunset. If Sony doesn't make a deal with Konami, then Konami misses out on revenue from the Xbox brand.

So again, why would Sony care to spend resources on a game you readily admit they are going to get anyway, and will sell many more copies than Xbox will anyway? There's no reason for Sony to make the deal. You could argue there is reason Konami would, but it would still be a weak argument imho. PES is finally on the rebound and is a small franchise. They need as many people buying the game as they can get. You know what a PS exclusive status would make them? A permanent soccer second fiddle to FIFA.

PES is better this year for gameplay. Fifa for things like the licenses and presentation. 

Just no. MS first party is week. For all the money they have, they still need to reply on moneyhatting 3rd party games to make a decent exclusive list. 

Sony and Nintendo don't need to do such things although will occasionally buy 3rd part exclusives. 

Titanfall has a lot of potential but it was half a game released at full price. IW prob had production issues (think they had a small team). But the sequal has an awful lot to improve on. Agreed about it being exclusive for either platform, ultimitely that's going to damage it going forward. 

Pes has been improving but the sales keep getting worse. Fifa's grip is getting stonger by the year. It's almost impossible for them to get back but making the better game every year would help. 

Lastly if MS moneyhatted PES that would be the end of the series. They bundled it heavily one year and it's sales were still way less than it's PS counter part. If it went exclusive now for xbox it's lights out. I find it funny how you suggest that for MS but you don't think going with Sony where it sells 90% of it's sales would be a better idea. 

PES PS4 vs X1 is 13 -1. Just think about that. 

I understand the licensing argument, but anyone who think that exclusivity wouldn't make up for the tiny amount of lost sales, you don't understand the appeal that exclusive games have.

Yes, but it wouldn't benefit Sony, only Konami.