| kowenicki said:
Some people are getting a little too carried away. |
I know it isn't. I never said it was.
| kowenicki said:
Some people are getting a little too carried away. |
I know it isn't. I never said it was.
Exactly. The problem is in perception.
Price was only important in the beginning of the year, when it was anyone's game. When the gap started to grow, price started to matter less because of popularity, and even by the Kinect drop it was already too late WW, and surprisingly barely affected the US.
The holiday deal is the best chance of closing if not reversing the gap in the US, its never happening worldwide, but it won't last after holidays, unless XB1 shifts its baseline significantly. But price is mattering a lot less over time.
Also, retailers.
In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank


Gens are decided early, as some said first to 10 million wins. Peoples perception in near impossible to change about a product, that's why sometimes a successor debuts really early.
Also sometimes one just has the others number, Mustang owned all other muscle cars for decades. Coke rules cola and PS4 is console gaming for the gen.
Price, brand power, word of mouth and software. For everyone these are the things that grants you success. You can lack some elements if they are exceeded by others in return.
Lets look at them individually and compare the two companies.
Price: on even terms technically. When price parity exists people who cares a lot about this will check out other costs such as online fees and various other associated costs. Xbl gold has an MSRP of 60 dollars per year whereas ps plus has a price of 50. This might sound trivial but it does add up in the end when making the decision.
Brand power: the console bussines is comparatively hard to estimate each gen. Everone knows apple will sell the most phones no matter what the competition or they themselves offer. Console manufacturers cant get away with that. A huge amount of people still dont have any brand loyalty, but of course different regions some advantages over the other. For example north america has been much stronger supporters of the xbox brand per potential consumer than the rest of the world has been. Europe is strongly favoured towards playstation even when the x360 competed against ps3. What has changed from the 360 era is the DRM/always online debacle. It has hit everywhere around the world but it has hit the hardest in the US simply because the xbox fans was bigger percentage wise there. Look back and consider how much uproar it got. Everyone cursed microsoft and those who didnt stayed silent and didnt defend them because of the sheer amount of hate. Then think back at the reversals. I would estimate 1/10th of that activity to come back for the reversals. You can be damn sure there are still a bunch of people who doesnt know that xb1 plays used games or maybe they just heard some bad things which has discouraged them from purchase.
This leads me to word of mouth.
It can be the network effect the 360 enjoyed last gen or it could just be you visiting someone who has the system and speaks well of it in front of you. I would aegue this is the oldest and most efficient way of stealth marketing as you trust these individuals more than any commercial in this age where we have learned to zone out whenever being presented with an ad in order to maintain our sanity.
More ps4 owners = more possible word of mouth. This creates a snowball effect that only increases while the ps4 continues to outsell the xb1.
And lastly software. Notice i didnt say exclusives, because while those still matter, especially for the one lagging behind, the most important thing is 3rd party. Destiny directly sold more consoles than propably any exclusive title this gen. If you can get everything on your system then you can slow down on your own development. This is the main reason why the wii u struggles. Sure they have quality exclusives, but the wii audience is gone and so they only have us to look to. As we can see, not many non aligned fanboys will choose the system with only one game release every month (at the very best) what is keeping the wii u stabilized is its comparatively cheaper pricetag and the audience wanting to own multiple consoles. For most this is the console you get as supplement to your main console of choice. Word of mouth faded alongside the rise of the angry birds and the clashes of clans. I think you can directly compare how badly the wii u will sell by looking at how much tablet sales increase.
ethomaz said:
OS features for gaming can't catche in just minutes or hours. + Bad installation times So in the next few hours Xbone will catch PS4 in gaming feature? |
Xboneone has a great patch system and the apps are fast. Lol are you just talking out your ass? The Xbox one has a few features the ps4 doesn't have which can't cancel out a lot of the other stuff you posted as well.
kowenicki said:
The measure. The ipod had 75% marketshare that eventually rose to over 90%. This isny remotely similar. The ipod didnt just have the cool factor, it had almost 100% mindshare. This isnt remotely the case with the PS4 and ONE despite how much some of you might think it is.
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I figured that would be your reason. Though the scale is different the situation is largely the same.
Also, by the end of the gen the PS4 might have something like 60-70% market share if your just talking about PS4+XBO
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Mad55 said:
Xboneone has a great patch system and the apps are fast. Lol are you just talking out your ass? The Xbox one has a few features the ps4 doesn't have which can't cancel out a lot of the other stuff you posted as well. |
I havent a clue about the patch system, but apps and os features are really slow on X1 not 7th gen slow but not PS4 fast either.
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Mad55 said: Xboneone has a great patch system and the apps are fast. Lol are you just talking out your ass? The Xbox one has a few features the ps4 doesn't have which can't cancel out a lot of the other stuff you posted as well. |
You can back to talk about patch system when it started to have a reasonable size... not 16GB, 13GB, 20GB, etc... it is just ridiculous compared with PS4.
And you need to use the PS4 apps to see the huge different in terms of speed.
Combined the install system + patch system makes you need to wait over 1 hour to play games in Xbone.
What gaming feature Xbone have over PS4? Suspend/Resume and? Yeap... I know how bad is the situation... can I list the gaming features PS4 have over Xbone now?
PS. I guess you need to make you home lesson first or use a PS4 
Note. It is just blow my mind how can anybody create the clain that the Xbone's OS and app are fast or the patch/install system is great... even MS knows the situation about these points.
| foodfather said: At this present point in time, Xbox One is not the inferior console. Not even close. And no, resulition does not make a game better. |
Saying the console has no flaws just shows ppl that anything u say shouldn't be taken seriously. The install times are a flaw, that's not subjective, if u can't see any flaws then ur blinded.

compare rare under microsoft to naughty dog under sony and you know what their biggest problem is.