This is really well thought out childish anger. Like reading a tantrum, only pissier.

In October 2012, Iwata said the Wii U will be profitable in the next fiscal year. That was now two calendar years ago. So a safe assumption is that the Wii U has been turning a profit for Nintendo on each unit sold since June (right when MK8 released).

So you really think that after two years on the market and one price cut, the Wii U isn't making a profit per unit sold when, before the console even launched, Iwata implied the Wii U would be profitable after one or two retail games are purchased with it?

EDIT: Nevermind, I have my answer: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6784276

Makes me wonder what your point was in the first place then. Software sales are the primary cash cow of a console, and licensing fees aren't nearly as much of a money sink as getting the console out of the door and getting production costs of it out of the red.

Nintendo will give up on the Wii U after 2016 to focus on Fusion, that will cause Wii U discussion to stop, though I suspect in the broader sense when Smash fails to "save" the Wii U and sales flat line again early next year, that will be the back breaker for most of those still holding out hope.

Same deal as Vita, once things like Killzone and Tearaway "failed" to save the system, most Vita fans shut up and accepted the reality of the situation. 

Success isn't defined purely by if you turn a profit or not. A company doesn't invest years of its time and effort into a new console so they can celebrate when they lose the majority of their market share and earn a small profit.

I doubt Nintendo consider the WiiU a direct failure, but they sure as hell don't consider it a success either. It's been the least profitable of any of their core home consoles, and is currently on track to be their lowest selling. When people debate about what can "save" the WiiU, they're wondering what it can do to improve both its financial and sales situation, relative to its predecessors and competition.

I edited my post above. If the Wii U has a typical five-year lifespan, I'm pretty sure Nintendo will be able to break even on Wii U marketing and R&D at a minimum, especially considering how lackluster the former has been.

That's just my most conservative take. That's not factoring in things like the digital marketplace, something Nintendo didn't have in place until the Wii and didn't take seriously until this generation, and amiibo, which could be a huge boon for its ecosystem.

You are wrong .....all companies are in business to make a profit at the end of the day and your way of thinking is way off...consoles does not make gaming companies profitable it is software .....do you think Microsoft or Sony are happy that they sold 80,000,000 consoles and did not start making a profit until year 5 or 6 of its release and still haven't made a profit at the end of the generation.....and too your question what's the point of making a console and at the end of the day if  it doesn't make a profit....it makes no sense ..that is why Nintendo is always gonna be around because they are a very smart company......Profits >over how many consoles we sell or coming in first or second place.....why do you think they have billions in the bank...no debt  and that is sound business sense they could care less where they finish 

finally,someone who expresses me!i m fed up with these threads,mainly because they give the chance to wii u "lovers" to spit their venom!I admire you now :p we care about its profitability,win against gamecube and the most important: great games!we have a big success so to be satisfied or celebrate...3ds!

Sorry but your wrong. Truly, a business is successful when it meets the goals it was set out to achieve (if you were expecting 500b profit and only get 10b, you might consider it unsucessful). But even more than that, a business is worth it when you meet your break-even. Why? Because it was enough to feed every worker (and that's the ultimate objective of every firm, to feed its members), to pay ur suplliers, taxes, social security, etc. Of course a big profit is better cuz you have more to invest next time, but ultimately I'd start a business if at least i could pay my bills with it, and if I make a profit, better.

The brand awareness, although undoubtly important, it's secondary when conceiving a console. Brand awareness in a worldwide business with only 3 main competitors, such as videogaming, is a given. Every hardcore gamer (as people like to call it nowadays) knows about gaming and about the consoles out there. And hardcore gamers are what really feeds the console videogame market, not the casuals (ok they helped for Wii console sales, and at lesser degree they tend to help every console, but only partially). Brand awareness is already there, it's how you place yourself to the market (marketing) that may help you or not. And that is independent from previous console sales - Gamecube (20M) to Wii (100M) and PS2 (155M) to PS3 (80M) say hello. Marketing helps a lot and in this particular case, Sony excels at it, Nintendo sucks.

The amount of consoles you sell in previous generation doesn't influence how many you sell now all that much. Ok granted it can earn you a legion of fans, but if you present them with a bigger, better product many will shift. Many other things do, such as the price, the quality,  the way consumers look at it (example: Nintendo being seen as kiddy hurts them), marketing (yes, the hype), the games, etc.