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bigjon said:
Mr Puggsly said:
bigjon said:


its not just the 1080p. it the whole idea of they nerfing a verion for no reason other than parity. it is literally shooting yourself in the foot.

That is what you and a few other XB1 fans are missing. We dont care THAT much about 1080p, we prefer it but its the principle behind the whole thing. And its not "petty". They did the same thing for Watchdogs (although they did not state it was for parity, they said it was because they could not get the performance they wanted at 1080p) and it did fine, but the big difference was WD was a late may release and people really had no other options.

No, you miss the point. We understand why this bothers people. But it won't have a significant impact on sales.

Again, you said the X1 version will probably sell about the same as the PS4 version. That shows you're out of touch with the average consumer. Parity doesn't matter that much, especially if the product is still impressive.

Destiny is the best selling PS4 game and it was likely designed to have parity with the X1 version.

you claimed that the XB1 would still outsell the PS4 (in the US) despite all the issues. I think you under estimate what a general "bad taste" about something can do to sales. The failed unveiling of the XB1 left a bad taste in many peoples mouths and it is still trying to overcome that.


Even though Xbox1 has the marketing for AC Unity and the for 1st time in awhile the PS console doesn't have exclusive DLCs for AC games, I still would predict that AC Unity will sell more on PS4 compared to Xbox1 in the US and worldwide (? globally in the US) despite all the parity hate.  I would go far to predict that AC Call of Duty Advance Warfare will sell more on the PS4 in the US and definitely sell more worldwide.  




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Arkaign said:

Of course I believe it. It's been true for 20+ years of PC gaming. Take any CPU-bound game, and as long as you have spare GPU power, you can keep raising the resolution until you reach the limit of your display, or the GPU bottleneck exceeds the CPU bottleneck. Conversely, lowering the resolution in a CPU bound scenario yields zero increase in FPS. There are heaps of examples of this. Take Civ 5 on an Athlon II X3, or Diablo 3 on a Pentium D, then put a solid GPU in the mix. Boom, you can run crazy resolutions to pathetic ones, and the FPS always is pegged low by the CPU.

The ironic thing about your post is that in console situations the absolutely minute influence CPU performance has on limiting graphics performance (draw calls via API), are even less of a factor.

If anyone wants to test, all they have to do is underclock their CPU to a low level, then run a CPU intensive game, and even a moderate GPU will max out at the same CPU-limited FPS at all, or nearly all available resolutions. The CPU single-threaded performance in the PS4 and XB1 is quite terrible honestly. So it's not surprising that something with a lot of AI is CPU limited, but it's ludicrously, absolutely, 110% jack shit to do with resolution.

I've worked for Microsoft, EDS, TI, Raytheon, etc/infinity since before you were probably in diapers anyway. I learned COBOL in the mid 1980s, and that was my third language.

Let me guess, you learned Visual Basic or Java, and think you know programming? :) What a thing to brag about or insult someone over anyway, it's just us nerds, who gives a shit.

Many things are going on, and games are optimised for different things. The PS4 probably is able to do a higher resolution, I agree. But it will not simply be flipping a switch. With the optimization games do, you will have to optimize for the higher resolution too. Maybe Ubisoft wanted to cut these additional costs. I only laughed about your exaggeration.

Your assumptions about me are wrong by the way, I learned multiple programming languages at the end of the 80s.



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bigjon said:
Mr Puggsly said:

No, you miss the point. We understand why this bothers people. But it won't have a significant impact on sales.

Again, you said the X1 version will probably sell about the same as the PS4 version. That shows you're out of touch with the average consumer. Parity doesn't matter that much, especially if the product is still impressive.

Destiny is the best selling PS4 game and it was likely designed to have parity with the X1 version.

you claimed that the XB1 would still outsell the PS4 (in the US) despite all the issues. I think you under estimate what a general "bad taste" about something can do to sales. The failed unveiling of the XB1 left a bad taste in many peoples mouths and it is still trying to overcome that.

Now you're just making shit up or you have me confused with someone else.



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bevochan said:
bigjon said:
Mr Puggsly said:
bigjon said:


its not just the 1080p. it the whole idea of they nerfing a verion for no reason other than parity. it is literally shooting yourself in the foot.

That is what you and a few other XB1 fans are missing. We dont care THAT much about 1080p, we prefer it but its the principle behind the whole thing. And its not "petty". They did the same thing for Watchdogs (although they did not state it was for parity, they said it was because they could not get the performance they wanted at 1080p) and it did fine, but the big difference was WD was a late may release and people really had no other options.

No, you miss the point. We understand why this bothers people. But it won't have a significant impact on sales.

Again, you said the X1 version will probably sell about the same as the PS4 version. That shows you're out of touch with the average consumer. Parity doesn't matter that much, especially if the product is still impressive.

Destiny is the best selling PS4 game and it was likely designed to have parity with the X1 version.

you claimed that the XB1 would still outsell the PS4 (in the US) despite all the issues. I think you under estimate what a general "bad taste" about something can do to sales. The failed unveiling of the XB1 left a bad taste in many peoples mouths and it is still trying to overcome that.


Even though Xbox1 has the marketing for AC Unity and the for 1st time in awhile the PS console doesn't have exclusive DLCs for AC games, I still would predict that AC Unity will sell more on PS4 compared to Xbox1 in the US and worldwide (? globally in the US) despite all the parity hate.  I would go far to predict that AC Call of Duty Advance Warfare will sell more on the PS4 in the US and definitely sell more worldwide.  


I agree completely on CoD especially with HALO MCC in the same release window. I backed off the XB1 version of Unity selling more I think the userbase will be too much to overcome and the game is set in Europe where Sony has a huge advantage. I will go with it will sell less than AC4: BF.



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Mr Puggsly said:
bigjon said:
Mr Puggsly said:

No, you miss the point. We understand why this bothers people. But it won't have a significant impact on sales.

Again, you said the X1 version will probably sell about the same as the PS4 version. That shows you're out of touch with the average consumer. Parity doesn't matter that much, especially if the product is still impressive.

Destiny is the best selling PS4 game and it was likely designed to have parity with the X1 version.

you claimed that the XB1 would still outsell the PS4 (in the US) despite all the issues. I think you under estimate what a general "bad taste" about something can do to sales. The failed unveiling of the XB1 left a bad taste in many peoples mouths and it is still trying to overcome that.

Now you're just making shit up or you have me confused with someone else.

You literally made an OP about this. Well, maybe it was Toastboy... But most XB1 fans and PS4 fans agreed prior to launch that XB1 would take NA, it would just be alot closer than last gen. So if you diverted from the general train of thought about a year ago then no you did not predict that.



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Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

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bigjon said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Now you're just making shit up or you have me confused with someone else.

You literally made an OP about this. Well, maybe it was Toastboy... But most XB1 fans and PS4 fans agreed prior to launch that XB1 would take NA, it would just be alot closer than last gen. So if you diverted from the general train of thought about a year ago then no you did not predict that.

Yeah really do have him confused because he has NEVER said anything like that.....mostly just Jega, TheDrill and Toastboy.....not even most XB1 fans to be honest. Not even most PS4 fans as you claimed said that. Heck you just seem to be generalizing just for the heck of it. Sorry for jumping in but I just don't like when people make generalizations like that.



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bigjon said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Now you're just making shit up or you have me confused with someone else.

You literally made an OP about this. Well, maybe it was Toastboy... But most XB1 fans and PS4 fans agreed prior to launch that XB1 would take NA, it would just be alot closer than last gen. So if you diverted from the general train of thought about a year ago then no you did not predict that.

Maybe you should find that post.

I'm one of the people that argued MS is literally giving Sony the sales edge before launch. I never claimed MS would be the sales leader in NA.



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In my opinion XBOX-fans have a far better reason to be mad at Ubisoft considering Playstation got exclusive missions on Brotherhood, 3 and Black Flag



Ka-pi96 said:
Oh noes! A game is missing a couple of pixels, it's the end of teh worldz!


Oh noes! a company is deliberately gimping a product for no real reason 



Leaked AC Unity PS4 screenshots look awful.....