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Best video Game generation?

Gen 1: Magnavox Odyssey/Color TV-Game 6 2.04%
 
Gen 2: Atari 2600/Intellivision 1 0.34%
 
Gen 3: NES/Sega Master System 10 3.40%
 
Gen 4: Sega Genesis/SNES/TurboGrafx-16 75 25.51%
 
Gen 5: Nintendo 64/Playstion/Sega Saturn 57 19.39%
 
Gen 6: Dreamcast/PS2/Xbox/Gamecube 93 31.63%
 
Gen 7: Xbox 360/PS3/Wii 31 10.54%
 
Gen 8: Wii U/PS4/Xbox One 21 7.14%
 
Total:294
prayformojo said:
Mr.Playstation said:
While I do agree with most of what you say especially the part in which you say that realistic games age badly, I disagree with you in your third point. The problem are not the new games or consoles but you. As one grows older he makes a fine line between past and present. The past seems magical a time when games were amazing. The present is a time riddled with problems were games lack magic. Many go through this phase explains why many gamers collect old consoles to relive that time when games where magical but intact they have grown into adults and changed.


I'm 34 and have been playing games since I was 4 which means I've experienced every generation starting with Atari 2600 AS IT HAPPENED and let me tell you something, that "magic" thing you speak of? I had it all the way up until the this generation when I bought a PS4 at launch. It has nothing to do with youth for me, because I haven't been considered "young" for ten years.

For me, the PS4 and Xbone lost that magic when they released consoles and software that were shiny versions of what we have been seeing for years now. Nothing fresh, nothing new. It took a few months before the joy of the new toy I bought wore off and I was left bored to tears. Not that the games sucked, but because, like I said..been there, done that.

So, I went with Wii-U instead. I got the MK8 bundle, and The Wonderful 101 and...there is was...that magic again. You can't keep playing the same murder sim/FPS/mature/dark hum drum software over and over again without it getting old imo. Back in the day, each generation meant brand new experiences and THAT was what made the magic happen. Without it...meh...

I'm the same age as you and been playing games just as long. I'm different and in the fact that those type of games almost never get old 2 me and if they do,I just simply take a break from them. The difference is that graphics have just about reached it's peak on consoles. what brand new experience could there possibly be? maybe virtual reality? Going all digital? I mean what do expect?



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I hate the pathetic attempts at "realism" in video games, it's painful to watch developers fail at pretty much every aspect of realism ranging from physics to graphics. I too hate DLC as it has, in a way, inflated the cost of gaming while fragmenting what should be more seamless and cohesive experiences. Finally, I too dislike the lack of originality and that impossible to define "magic" that seems to be lacking these days. Do these things stop me from buying and playing new games? Not a chance.



Mr.Playstation said:
prayformojo said:
Mr.Playstation said:
While I do agree with most of what you say especially the part in which you say that realistic games age badly, I disagree with you in your third point. The problem are not the new games or consoles but you. As one grows older he makes a fine line between past and present. The past seems magical a time when games were amazing. The present is a time riddled with problems were games lack magic. Many go through this phase explains why many gamers collect old consoles to relive that time when games where magical but intact they have grown into adults and changed.


I'm 34 and have been playing games since I was 4 which means I've experienced every generation starting with Atari 2600 AS IT HAPPENED and let me tell you something, that "magic" thing you speak of? I had it all the way up until the this generation when I bought a PS4 at launch. It has nothing to do with youth for me, because I haven't been considered "young" for ten years.

For me, the PS4 and Xbone lost that magic when they released consoles and software that were shiny versions of what we have been seeing for years now. Nothing fresh, nothing new. It took a few months before the joy of the new toy I bought wore off and I was left bored to tears. Not that the games sucked, but because, like I said..been there, done that.

So, I went with Wii-U instead. I got the MK8 bundle, and The Wonderful 101 and...there is was...that magic again. You can't keep playing the same murder sim/FPS/mature/dark hum drum software over and over again without it getting old imo. Back in the day, each generation meant brand new experiences and THAT was what made the magic happen. Without it...meh...

I am sure that gaming to you is not the same as it was when you was 4. Back then gaming meant a big part of your life. Back then every gaming moment such as getting a game, finishing a game, beat a difficult boss etc was precious. This is what the op is talking about and since he is just 16 he is just finding out that gaming seems to have less meaning to him then when he was a child. And by the way this gen is trying to find a new gerne as you can see new games are taking over and Cod and Ac are being left behind. My advice would be to give this gen some time to settle down. And you may also be finding Mk8 and the wonderfull 101 especially Mk8, enjoyable since you may have rarely played any of the previous versions.


I understand what you're saying, but it never really happened to me. When I was 16, I was gaming on PS1 and playing DK64 and it blew me away. I didn't start losing "it" until the middle of last generation when things started to get stale. The Wii bubble had popped and it seemed like innovation, for the first time, left the building. 

As for MK, you're right about that. I loved the first one on SNES, bought the Gamecube version when it launched, but that was it. I don't think MK is a franchise that you can buy every time it drops. They play too similar to one another imo. It's better to space them out like I've done.

The Wonderful 101 on the other hand, really IS fresh. Name me something on PS4 or Xbone that plays and feels like that game. There isn't anything like it. The same goes for Pushmo, or Art Academy (I know it's not a game, but I'm using it as an example of software that FEELS different), Pikmin 3, Miiverse, a tablet controller....it's just all so different from the original Wii. That's what I grew up with. Each generation was vastly different than the one that came before it either in software, hardware or both. The PS4 and Xbone are (and this is just my opinion) too much of the same. The consoles feel the same. The controllers feel the same. The software feels the same (and in some cases, ARE the same)...it's just, stale. 

I suppose if someone just got into gaming, they wouldn't have the issue but, for a vet like me, I need that freshness to stay invested.



Gen 8 has waaay too many votes! Seriously, people? -_-



                
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oldschoolfool said:
prayformojo said:
Mr.Playstation said:
While I do agree with most of what you say especially the part in which you say that realistic games age badly, I disagree with you in your third point. The problem are not the new games or consoles but you. As one grows older he makes a fine line between past and present. The past seems magical a time when games were amazing. The present is a time riddled with problems were games lack magic. Many go through this phase explains why many gamers collect old consoles to relive that time when games where magical but intact they have grown into adults and changed.


I'm 34 and have been playing games since I was 4 which means I've experienced every generation starting with Atari 2600 AS IT HAPPENED and let me tell you something, that "magic" thing you speak of? I had it all the way up until the this generation when I bought a PS4 at launch. It has nothing to do with youth for me, because I haven't been considered "young" for ten years.

For me, the PS4 and Xbone lost that magic when they released consoles and software that were shiny versions of what we have been seeing for years now. Nothing fresh, nothing new. It took a few months before the joy of the new toy I bought wore off and I was left bored to tears. Not that the games sucked, but because, like I said..been there, done that.

So, I went with Wii-U instead. I got the MK8 bundle, and The Wonderful 101 and...there is was...that magic again. You can't keep playing the same murder sim/FPS/mature/dark hum drum software over and over again without it getting old imo. Back in the day, each generation meant brand new experiences and THAT was what made the magic happen. Without it...meh...

I'm the same age as you and been playing games just as long. I'm different and in the fact that those type of games almost never get old 2 me and if they do,I just simply take a break from them. The difference is that graphics have just about reached it's peak on consoles. what brand new experience could there possibly be? maybe virtual reality? Going all digital? I mean what do expect?

It's going to be VR, I have no doubt about it. We're on the cusp right now and it's going to completely explode for the next decade. Being able to walk THROUGH the Muchroom Kingdom or Racoon City rather than just seeing it on a TV is going to change everything (just examples, I'm not saying those two will happen). 

Plus, when you think about it's other uses (porn where you are actually IN the room where the people are doing their deed is a game changer) are going to make sure it becomes as mainstream as TV or the internet.



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AZWification said:

Gen 8 has waaay too many votes! Seriously, people? -_-


Most people online are in their early 20's. Generation 8 was their entire life through Jr. High/Highschool. It should be expected.



I Have to agree with the OP.

I have been seeing many stepbacks in last decade... Paid DLC, on-line paywals, lack of content, story and graphics above gameplay, D.R.M., always on-line and many other anti-consumer measures are making my interest in the industry slowly dies.

I have been playing games since the Atari and, in my opinion, Gen 3 and 4 were the golden age. Once Nintendo, Sega and arcade games started to decline I started to lose my interest on the console/arcade industry becoming a mainly PC gamer.

Nowadays, with companies like EA, Blizzard making mistake after mistake I am losing my interest on PC games too. So even if I end up buying a console or handheld I do not see myself playing more games than I played last gen.



I voted for the original PS gen but it wasn't just the gen itself. It was a company called "Squaresoft" that made that gen so awesome to me. Sadly they have since become a nonentity called Square-Enix. I still replay many Squaresoft games from that gen.

TC just sounds like he grew older lol. 16 and complaining? At first I figured it was some 30 year old guy at the very least till I read the comments. It may be better to start searching for a new hobby.

DLC can be good and bad. SOme companies e.g. Capcom, Namco Square-Enix are definitely doing it wrong. Expansion-style dlc however, are a welcome addition IMO. The other thing this connectivity is great for is patches. Back in the day, if a game had gamebreaking bugs, there was no way to fix it without buying a reprint. Nowadays, you just download a patch and call it a day.



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I couldn't do one with out the other. Each gen has it's truly great games and gen 8 will too soon enough.

Me personally i like modern games but i can appreciate older ones too. Got back into playing PSP games recently and i guess thats retro now since they are no longer made Anyway i can't decide which is better Gen 4 or Gen 6. Both were amazing



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