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Jereel Hunter said:

The answers why we shouldn't, should be obvious. This is a profitable part of Microsoft, a company with almost limitless resources. Why would a profitable product, on decent track, by a AAA company be counted out? The X1 is in a way better position than the PS3 was. It was a company who's stock had been in freefall for years, was in the red constantly, and was billions in the hole as a product, and receiving similar poor sales. It recovered from a much worse position than the X1 is in at present. Especially since MS could absolutely afford to tank the price, if necessary to keep the brand alive. Sony would have a tough time following suit. 

Hate to break it to you, but just because Microsoft has a lot of money, doesn't mean that it all goes towards the Xbox brand. If that were true, then they would've lowered the price of the Xox to $399 & still have Kinect bundled with it. Plus they would've made the hardware much more powerful than the PS4.

The Xbox brand is actually at stake here, & their investors want Microsoft to make a profit off of Xbox One. They can't easily take big pricecuts like they could before with the OG Xbox & Xbox 360.



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Dark Chaos said:

Wii U doesnt have games and no third party support which the Xbox One does have. Also, people buy consoles based on exclusives not multiplats. The PS3 sold well despite having inferior multiplats because of its great exclusives. I see the Xbox One following the same path.

I can't believe you just said the Wii U has no games...

Somebody get Padib, Spemanig, or Nintentacle in here.

The PS3 barely tied the 360 with Japan and the International support.

Sony went from 155mill with PS2 to 82mill with the PS3, that isn't considered well, multiplat inferiority lasted for only half the generation while the disparity between the PS4 and X1 is not only bigger but permanent.

Meanwhile the Xbox went from 24~mil to 82 mill with the X360.

PS3 lost the US its only because of international support that it was pulled up to tie for second.

The XB1 is losing everywhere, its best region is still 1:(1.5-2) in favor of PS4, its going to have to decimate the PS4 in the US just to catch up, and Halo is not flappy bird.

Assuming a huge boost from the kinectless SKU it'll have a month, same as December, and that will be it, the consoles are virtually identical, for every Exclusive on one side, I can name another on the competiton's, and there are more multiplats than exclusives.

IF it is about the games as you claim, 25 games, 5 of them exclusives for either platform, 20 of them multiplats, every game cost 60$, the average consumer is not going to get 20 inferior versions for the same price as 20 superior versions just because of 5 exclusives.

Both consoles play the game exactly the same, so why in the hell would it matter when you are choosing between 2 400$ pieces of black plastic.



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Mr Puggsly said:
BeElite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I'm not implying X1 has PS4 demand and it doesn't need it to sell as many units as the 360.

How does a product sale great where there is no demend for it.

Kudos to MS. They managed to sell 4.6 million $499 Xbox One units inspite of "no demand."

 

nice flip floping.

I said it had none clearly talking about current times, now you are just spining BS casue you have no facts or points.  Just feelings and wishes that X1 will magically sale well.  



BeElite said:
Mr Puggsly said:
BeElite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I'm not implying X1 has PS4 demand and it doesn't need it to sell as many units as the 360.

How does a product sale great where there is no demend for it.

Kudos to MS. They managed to sell 4.6 million $499 Xbox One units inspite of "no demand."

 

nice flip floping.

I said it had none clearly talking about current times, now you are just spining BS casue you have no facts or points.  Just feelings and wishes that X1 will magically sale well.  

And nintendo managed to sell 6.3m wiiu despite no demand / dead console, too.



Tamron said:
BeElite said:
Mr Puggsly said:
BeElite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I'm not implying X1 has PS4 demand and it doesn't need it to sell as many units as the 360.

How does a product sale great where there is no demend for it.

Kudos to MS. They managed to sell 4.6 million $499 Xbox One units inspite of "no demand."

 

nice flip floping.

I said it had none clearly talking about current times, now you are just spining BS casue you have no facts or points.  Just feelings and wishes that X1 will magically sale well.  

And nintendo managed to sell 6.3m wiiu despite no demand / dead console, too.


all have their fanboys that will buy anything their corperate master overloards sale em.  But such devotion is limited and quickly exhausted.  



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BeElite said:

all have their fanboys that will buy anything their corperate master overloards sale em.  But such devotion is limited and quickly exhausted.  

Never fear, those devoted few do sometimes stick around to persistantly praise their chosen masters..  as we can clearly see on these forums



Dark_Feanor said:

But, hey!! What else can Microsoft do? Recall all their XOne and release a new one with slight more RAM and ROPs in the GPU?


Nothing that is the point, they are stcuk on the wron side and will suffer subpar sales the whole gen.  

Nothing can be done to overcome certain X1 weaknesses.



BeElite said:

nice flip floping.

I said it had none clearly talking about current times, now you are just spining BS casue you have no facts or points.  Just feelings and wishes that X1 will magically sale well.  

There is demand, people who actually want the Kinect are still buying the X1. I believe sales over the past few weeks show people are waiting for the $399 sku.

Honestly, I don't give a shit. As long as the X1 sells around 40 million units it'll have great support. But I feel the potential to sell 70-80 million is there if MS makes some good decisions. Making Kinect optional is a good start.

MS made some bad decisions this gen and they're paying for it. But MS has the resources and following to keep Xbox relevant.



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BeElite said:


all have their fanboys that will buy anything their corperate master overloards sale em.  But such devotion is limited and quickly exhausted.  

Are you talking about the exodus of fans from Playstation 2 to Xbox 360?



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Mr Puggsly said:
BeElite said:

nice flip floping.

I said it had none clearly talking about current times, now you are just spining BS casue you have no facts or points.  Just feelings and wishes that X1 will magically sale well.  

There is demand, people who actually want the Kinect are still buying the X1. I believe sales over the past few weeks show people are waiting for the $399 sku.

Honestly, I don't give a shit. As long as the X1 sells around 40 million units it'll have great support. But I feel the potential to sell 70-80 million is there if MS makes some good decisions. Making Kinect optional is a good start.

MS made some bad decisions this gen and they're paying for it. But MS has the resources and following to keep Xbox relevant.

Not enough to out sale the 360 there is not, which the whole demand debate started with.  

Ms has the resources to have launched the X1 at 399 but didnt.  Should tell you plenty.