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AZWification said:
Galaki said:
My toaster oven is more powerful that all of them combined.

Can it run Crysis, though?

It makes you cry and screen like a little girl if you touch it while it's running.



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Untamoi said:
WhiteEaglePL said:
Its a stupid reason.

The wii U currently has the most 1080p 60fps games and more are coming (mk8 confirmed to be , unless more than 2 players or something.)


It is much more complicated than that. If you have simple cartoonish graphics, even PS2 could technically do 1080p 60 fps (if it could output 1080p). Heck, there were 1080p games over 15 years ago on PC.


Did you know that Gran Turismo 4 and Tourist Trophy indeed supported 1080i on PS2 if you had component cables? Not 1080p but i believe that was due to using component. Don't know about the framerate though. 



Yep.

Galaki said:
AZWification said:

Can it run Crysis, though?

It makes you cry and screen like a little girl if you touch it while it's running.

Screen like a little girl? I never experienced that, so I will go and touch my toaster while it's running!



                
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Play4Fun said:
VanceIX said:
 

But, even though the Wii was popular at the beginning of last gen, casuals moved away from it due to smartphones and its last three years were mediocre. This generation is all about the core market, and Nintendo didn't anticipate that, so they tried to build on the Wii, but in the process just made some core gamers shy away from it ("Wii" is practically synonymous with "casual"). Naming it something original would allow them to rebuild their identity with core gamers, but Nintendo didn't look ahead and it bit them.


First of all, Wii's sales started to falter when Nintendo began dropping support, not because of smartphones/tablets, which seems to be the quickiest and easiest thing some people always jump to these days, to explain any and everything to do with sales.

And also, Wii U is more like the GC than Wii. If Nintendo had actually built on the Wii maybe their console wouldn't be selling like shit.

Nintendo had support for their console, they still released a good amount of first-party exclusives every quarter.

It was third-party devs leaving the sinking ship, as casuals had found other ways of playing games.

Also, they did build on the Wii, that's why its called the Wii U, and it's also the reason why it is faltering so much. They used an old architecture to retain backwards compatibility, they kept the wiimote as one of the standard controllers, hell, even the console looks pretty damn similar. 



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That graph is about 'Annual Energy Consumption'. Obviously, the WiiU isn't going to use much power in a year when all it does is gather dust .



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JazzB1987 said:
fatslob-:O said:
That's one reason but the other is the use of older semiconductor fabrication technologies ...


The PS3 Fat uses older semiconductor fabrication techology than the PS3 slim  is the PS3 fat underpowered? :)

No because when transitioning to newer semiconductor fabrication technologies we can reduce chip size and in turn with the chip area scaling improvements we can also see benefits such as reduced power consumption or increased power. 



VanceIX said:
 

Nintendo had support for their console, they still released a good amount of first-party exclusives every quarter.

It was third-party devs leaving the sinking ship, as casuals had found other ways of playing games.

Also, they did build on the Wii, that's why its called the Wii U, and it's also the reason why it is faltering so much. They used an old architecture to retain backwards compatibility, they kept the wiimote as one of the standard controllers, hell, even the console looks pretty damn similar. 


It was 3rd parties leaving the sinking ship? LOL

As if Wii had big 3rd party support. The few that really did support it, like Sega and Ubisoft were there to the end. And even if your (untrue) statement about third parties leaving  were true, why would it have mattered? By and large it was mostly Nintendo's software that sold the Wii.

 

Because the name has Wii in it, because it's BC and the WiiMote is a SECONDARY controller and the console looks similar it means the Wii U is a continuation of the Wii strategy?

When people talk about Wii U being like GC and not Wii they're not talking about how  the console looks or the name, they're talking about the phylosophy on which the console was designed. GC and Wii U were both made to appease third parties (even though by now Nintendo should realize they cannot really count on 3rd parties to support or move their consoles), they were both made to attempt to attract hardcore gamers (an audience that never was and never will be Nintendo's and one that is not necessary for the success of their consoles), and look at how expensive Wii U was ($350 and price dropped to $300). THis wouldn't have been the case had they not made that expensive controller which benefits third party software more than it benefits their own.

Wii on the other hand went totally against the standard controller set-up that third parties prefer for their games , the controller was simplistic, accessible (unlike the jack-of-all-trades gamepad, which I must admit I like) and worked well with the kind of games Nintendo makes, it was cheap (wouldn't have been the case had it been a console made to attract third parties) and the console was designed to pull in untapped markets and the Nintendo core with no futile attempts at getting the uninterested-in-Nintendo hardcore.



Play4Fun said:
VanceIX said:
 

Nintendo had support for their console, they still released a good amount of first-party exclusives every quarter.

It was third-party devs leaving the sinking ship, as casuals had found other ways of playing games.

Also, they did build on the Wii, that's why its called the Wii U, and it's also the reason why it is faltering so much. They used an old architecture to retain backwards compatibility, they kept the wiimote as one of the standard controllers, hell, even the console looks pretty damn similar. 


It was 3rd parties leaving the sinking ship? LOL

As if Wii had big 3rd party support. The few that really did support it, like Sega and Ubisoft were there to the end. And even if your (untrue) statement about third parties leaving  were true, why would it have mattered? By and large it was mostly Nintendo's software that sold the Wii.

 

Because the name has Wii in it, because it's BC and the WiiMote is a SECONDARY controller and the console looks similar it means the Wii U is a continuation of the Wii strategy?

When people talk about Wii U being like GC and not Wii they're not talking about how  the console looks or the name, they're talking about the phylosophy on which the console was designed. GC and Wii U were both made to appease third parties (even though by now Nintendo should realize they cannot really count on 3rd parties to support or move their consoles), they were both made to attempt to attract hardcore gamers (an audience that never was and never will be Nintendo's and one that is not necessary for the success of their consoles), and look at how expensive Wii U was ($350 and price dropped to $300). THis wouldn't have been the case had they not made that expensive controller which benefits third party software more than it benefits their own.

Wii on the other hand went totally against the standard controller set-up that third parties prefer for their games , the controller was simplistic, accessible (unlike the jack-of-all-trades gamepad, which I must admit I like) and worked well with the kind of games Nintendo makes, it was cheap (wouldn't have been the case had it been a console made to attract third parties) and the console was designed to pull in untapped markets and the Nintendo core with no futile attempts at getting the uninterested-in-Nintendo hardcore.


Are you seriously saying the gamepad was made to attract third parties, or worst, that gamepad is to attract hardocore gamers? Tell me how that worked. The gamepad was Nintendo trying to inovate with the controler again to have a new casual magnet??? Or that WiiU architeture was made to attract them? If you are talking about power or cost on that them you are completely wrong. And Nintendo problems with third parties isn't just because of power, or do you think they ignore Nintendo just because they are big bullies? They avoid Nintendo because they don't have much of a market on it, and even the devs that support the system get a lot of harsh feeling, mainly Ubisoft.



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I've been on about how efficient the Wii U is for its power for awhile, I'm glad that the internet is finally catching up on it, lol



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ZyroXZ2 said:

I've been on about how efficient the Wii U is for its power for awhile, I'm glad that the internet is finally catching up on it, lol

Efficient =/= Powerful for your sake ...