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Forums - Sony Discussion - DriveClub’s upgrade program is anti-consumer and a slap in the face to PS4 fans #NoExcuse

 

Driveclub, What to do?

a) https://twitter.com/yosp; Ask Yoshida 49 56.98%
 
b) become hypocrite; Defe... 7 8.14%
 
c) do nothing, (followed ... 10 11.63%
 
d) be ignorant; get explo... 17 19.77%
 
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Max King of the Wild on 08 May 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Max King of the Wild said:

Question, so... lets say Sony gets rid of this option. What does that "fix" or "change" besides screwing people over who have ps+, want to go digital and find value is this deal?

Let me get this straight. Sony can't offer a discount for the game for PS+ subscribers that allows them to own the game without the service?

http://us.playstation.com/playstation-plus/

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/09/10/playstation-plus-faq/

Q: What happens when my PlayStation Plus subscription ends?

A: The content you have downloaded as part of your PlayStation Plus subscription at no charge is only accessible as long as you are an active subscriber. The exceptions are free themes and avatars, which you will continue to have access to, even if you are no longer a subscriber. Anything you have purchased (even if you purchased it at a discount) will remain available to you even if your subscription ends.

You are paying 50$ for a retail game disguised as DLC.

Blantant Ripoff.

Its a bad deal. Ive said that already. Bad deals aren't anti consumer. You are huffing and puffing over nothing



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soulfly666 on 08 May 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Stop trying, he refuses to understand reason because hes seeing red trying to blame Sony for something that doesnt exist.


So. I will say it once more, as there IS a problem here.  If you ever cancel your ps+ you're ok losing every game youve ever bought at a small discount from plus, because that is the precedent they are setting with the 50 dollar version.



Skeeuk on 08 May 2014

just buy the retail game



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Porcupeth on 08 May 2014
dane007 said:
@porcupeth --- the free digital version that has no limitation is not the full game. You only get a handful of tracks and cars. To get the full Driveclub experience,, you need to upgrade. Yes theres an option to buy retail ,, but why force gamers to go that route.It should be equal whether you choose to buy the full retail version or upgrade to full digital version.

PS : hope you know there are gamers who go full digital. This gives the dital gamers a finger as once you upgrade to full digital version,, you don't the rights to it


again???? are you also trolling?

 

the free digital version has limitations, yes

but the non-free digital version does not. 

 

you're talking to someone who is 100% pro-digital. So yes, i do know there are gamers who go full digital.



dane007 on 08 May 2014

@stage this comes from OP : If you’re an active PlayStation Plus subscriber and have been playing the PlayStation Plus Edition, but decide you want the full DRIVECLUB experience, you can purchase a one-time upgrade for $49.99. This will give you access to all five locations, 55 tracks, 50 cars and all 50 tour events, as long as your PlayStation Plus subscription remains active. The thing taht people are kicking fuss is because if you choose to upgrade digitally you only can access and play if you keep your psn plus account live. This is limiting consumers choice. Why should gamers be forced to by retail version because of it?



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AnthonyW86 on 08 May 2014

Driveclub without PS Plus is like Titanfall without Live Gold. It's build around online and for online you need PS Plus. It seems like a dirty trick but at the same time hardly any harm is done.

More importantly they will probably change this since people are complaining, if it isn't as missunderstanding to begin with. So i wouldn't worry about it to much.



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 08 May 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:

What bias? We all knew the F2P option was coming and MS was the one boasting about it at E3 2013 (probably inspired Sony to do this). If you have PSN+ you get a pretty good preview of the game, plus $10 off when you decide to purchase. No ones complaing about either company either company is doing in this endeavor. No offense to you, but MS has had some pretty anti-consumer policies at the beginning of this generation and had to back track on quite a bit. They paid for it and have turned around the Xbox Ones chances because of it. Don't let animosity cloud your judgement because you might favor one brand.

What the hell are you talking about? What does brand preference have to do with my argument? I only mentioned it because its obvious that people are overlooking the issue just because its Sony. I have never defended MS and I refuse to the same for Sony.

With this "option", you do not own the game, there is no way you can spin this. You have purchased DLC, and by calling it DLC, Sony controls your right to access the game. Worse yet, they are advertising it as a full game, when its not.



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Porcupeth on 08 May 2014
dane007 said:
@stage this comes from OP : If you’re an active PlayStation Plus subscriber and have been playing the PlayStation Plus Edition, but decide you want the full DRIVECLUB experience, you can purchase a one-time upgrade for $49.99. This will give you access to all five locations, 55 tracks, 50 cars and all 50 tour events, as long as your PlayStation Plus subscription remains active. The thing taht people are kicking fuss is because if you choose to upgrade digitally you only can access and play if you keep your psn plus account live. This is limiting consumers choice. Why should gamers be forced to by retail version because of it?


you can buy the 60 bucks digital version and keep the game forever

 

do you want me to write that 1000 times?



S.T.A.G.E. on 08 May 2014
soulfly666 said:

So. I will say it once more, as there IS a problem here.  If you ever cancel your ps+ you're ok losing every game youve ever bought at a small discount from plus, because that is the precedent they are setting with the 50 dollar version.

No. You are losing only the free games. PSN Plus discounted games stay with you even after you drop the subsription. PSN Plus has many features and free games and discounted games are treated seperately. They aren't going to take away what you outright paid for at a discount. The perk of PSN+ at its base (outside of multiplayer now) are the free games which you get to try at a lengthy period of time. You have a base set of free games which stay for like two or three months and then you have the rest which change monthly.

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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 08 May 2014
AnthonyW86 said:
Driveclub without PS Plus is like Titanfall without Live Gold. It's build around online and for online you need PS Plus. It seems like a dirty trick but at the same time hardly any harm is done.

More importantly they will probably change this since people are complaining, if it isn't as missunderstanding to begin with. So i wouldn't worry about it to much.
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
pokoko said:
Something isn't right. This does not sound viable. I'm going to wait until I read the official upgrade proposal before I judge. It just doesn't make any real sense.

The only explanation I can come up with otherwise would be if Drive Club is an 'online only' game, in which case you would have to have PS+ anyway and the whole complaint is moot.

I checked before I even decided how to react to it. The game has single player.

http://gamingbolt.com/driveclub-interview-ps4-advantages-dedicated-servers-customisation-club-progress-and-more

Is there some  fixed structure for the single player?

Yes there is, we have a championship mode that you can playthrough. It also has a good deal of gameplay so if you choose to play offline you won’t be disappointed.

Ergo the PS+ version's Single player requires PS+ even if its offline. PS+ free games like resogun can be played offline but the expire with PS as well.

The ignorance is real.



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