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walsufnir on 30 April 2014
ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

You wrote " there is no way to be subjective if every multiplatform game released util now player better or/and have better graphics on PS4." And I told you you are wrong. Don't change your message like you want and cut quotes to make me look not understanding what you initially wrote

It is not subjective... all tecnical face-offs showed that... PS4 games have better gaphics and/or play better... you can't deny tecnical facts over subjective view.

Art style is subjective.

Framerate, resolution, AA, etc... not... it is tecnical fact... objective.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-fifa-14-next-gen-face-off



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eFKac on 30 April 2014

This is:
A) nothing new
B) not even first this gen (have you seen FIFA 14 commercials? Only 360/X1 advertised)



So it is happening...PS4 preorder.

Greatness Awaits!

ethomaz on 30 April 2014

walsufnir said:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-fifa-14-next-gen-face-off

Did you read my comments?

"in fact there is no multiplatform better on Xbone (very few cases of parity)."

PS. Strider seems to be the only exeption due the AF.

PPS. FIFA have a exlusive content on Xbone... the visual and framerate seems the same.



sales2099 on 30 April 2014
eFKac said:
This is:
A) nothing new
B) not even first this gen (have you seen FIFA 14 commercials? Only 360/X1 advertised)

I said there is a difference between widely acknowledged IPs and a relatively unknown new IP.



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walsufnir on 30 April 2014
ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-fifa-14-next-gen-face-off

Did you read my comments?

"in fact there is no multiplatform better on Xbone (very few cases of parity)."

PS. Strider seems to be the only exeption due the AF.


I repeat, just for you, again, because I read:

 

You wrote " there is no way to be subjective if every multiplatform game released util now player better or/and have better graphics on PS4." And I told you you are wrong. Don't change your message like you want and cut quotes to make me look not understanding what you initially wrote



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 30 April 2014
walsufnir said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
walsufnir said:

As you mention it - fluctuating framerate means fluctuating controller response time

Fluctuating at 60 is still better response time then flutuating at 30.


Better but the game behaves different if it dips to 40ish at times. No one is complaining about 58-60 fps. I would prefer predictable response time over non-predictable.

Preferences are irrelevant when we are considering the technical abilities of these games. Not to mention developers are making a habit of providing locked framerates on games.

If a multiplat is 30 fps for XB1 and 60 fps for PS4 both unlocked, the PS4 can lock at 30, while the XB1 doesn't have the space to. There is nothing the MS can do about that with the exception of paying off the developer, something that is much harder to do when they are losing in their biggest market.

The 360 strategy is not gonna work here.



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celador on 30 April 2014
sales2099 said:

Pretend Exclusive: A 3rd party multiplat, that releases for multiple consoles in the same window, in which all press showings and marketing are catered to only one console. Exclusive console bundles, being the lead platform, as well as timed exclusive/exclusive  betas and game content also strengthen the claim. The final effect is that the uninformed gamer will be convinced that the version primarily advertised is the only and/or best place to experience the game.


With exclusive bundles, being the lead platform and having timed exclusive/exclusive betas and game content, could you make an argument that the PS4 isn't the best place to experience this game?  These uninformed gamers that you speak of aren't exactly being misled in any way if they think they are getting a better deal with the PS4 version are they?



ethomaz on 30 April 2014

walsufnir said:

I repeat, just for you, again, because I read:

 

You wrote " there is no way to be subjective if every multiplatform game released util now player better or/and have better graphics on PS4." And I told you you are wrong. Don't change your message like you want and cut quotes to make me look not understanding what you initially wrote

My message is the same since the first comment lol... I didn't changed anything.

You and others are trying to pass tecnical fact like subjective... these is no subjectivitly in tecnical facts... you can discuss better art style or I like the controller more or I love the crushed blacks... these are subjectives.

walsufnir said:

Better but the game behaves different if it dips to 40ish at times. No one is complaining about 58-60 fps. I would prefer predictable response time over non-predictable.

You are confusing subjective with facts.

If you prefer a game that frops from 35-40fps to one that drops from 45-30fps is subjective... your preference... the games runs better at 40ish than the 35-30fps.



walsufnir on 30 April 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
walsufnir said:


Better but the game behaves different if it dips to 40ish at times. No one is complaining about 58-60 fps. I would prefer predictable response time over non-predictable.

If a multiplat is 30 fps for XB1 and 60 fps for PS4 both unlocked, the PS4 can lock at 30, while the XB1 doesn't have the space to.

That would require that devs put the option to lock the framerate.



sales2099 on 30 April 2014
celador said:
sales2099 said:

Pretend Exclusive: A 3rd party multiplat, that releases for multiple consoles in the same window, in which all press showings and marketing are catered to only one console. Exclusive console bundles, being the lead platform, as well as timed exclusive/exclusive  betas and game content also strengthen the claim. The final effect is that the uninformed gamer will be convinced that the version primarily advertised is the only and/or best place to experience the game.


With exclusive bundles, being the lead platform and having timed exclusive/exclusive betas and game content, could you make an argument that the PS4 isn't the best place to experience this game?  These uninformed gamers that you speak of aren't exactly being misled in any way if they think they are getting a better deal with the PS4 version are they?

I didn't say anybody was being tricked. They are very much getting a good deal. It is all part of the convincing process that makes this term I came up with very relevant. This could be a big thing going forward with new IPs in the future.



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