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Should there be a Nintendo E3 conference?

Yes, absolutely, crazy for not bothering! 354 50.79%
 
No, they don't need one and the ND suffices 162 23.24%
 
I'll wait to see how it all goes 178 25.54%
 
Total:694
Mr Khan on 30 April 2014
Pavolink said:
VitroBahllee said:

So, the breakdown:

Most people with Nintendo avatars think this is great because 'they personally are going to be watching it streaming anyway.' Or 'a Smash tournament will be cool!' or 'YAY! Best Buy demos!' (the strongest argument out of the bunch.)

The majority of the rest say: 'This won't get the mainstream attention from the press or people who aren't intense Nintendo fans that it would have gotten if it was a regular conference.'

And the argument against that position is.... 'Smash tournament!'

Most people don't understand. They believe that watching a live event is the same as watching a pre-recorded one just because they are in the other side of the tv/computer.

As a gamer I agree that I have the content, but we are not disscussing this from that side, we are from a bussiness perspective. Nintendo have a great booth and demos at best buy. Yet sales are low, holiday bump was pathetic and the only thing people remind is that Nintendo doesn't have a conference last year.

This is a bussiness, and as a bussiness, this is not the best way.

Now, what if Nintendo made all those events, except the digital one, and change for a live conference. It doesn't need to do one or the other. It can be both.

But why does it need to be live? If the problem is exposure, that's something you need to negotiate with content distributors.



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mr_capello on 30 April 2014

Let's be honest there is no difference for us mortals if we watch a stream with a Japanese guy up on a stage or with one in a conference room. And it shouldn't really matter to the press either. What counts are new and announcements. The nintendo direct is probably the most connected thing nintendo does right now. E3 conferences are not a thing for the press anymore (haven't been for along time to be honest) they are pure marketing and the direct format is a good way to control it. No bugs on stage no strange jokes



VitroBahllee on 30 April 2014
Mr Khan said:

But why does it need to be live? If the problem is exposure, that's something you need to negotiate with content distributors.


This is more about eschewing the traditional setting where all the press are anyway and expecting them to give your upstart, exclusive presentation the same exposure. Even if they mention this in their E3 articles, ti will get weird: 'Meanwhile, Nintendo did their own online streaming presentation after the conference and announced new games X, Y, Z.' It won't sound, to normal people, like Nintendo is really participating. It's subtle, but I still think with their backs against the wall Nintendo needs to do BOTH.



Pavolink on 30 April 2014
Mr Khan said:

But why does it need to be live? If the problem is exposure, that's something you need to negotiate with content distributors.

The only thing you need to negotiate is with press and their seat at the live conference. You can have demos at best buy like last year. How that worked? I still see low sales for Wii U, and you know why? because the press killed the Wii U calling an add-on, no games, less powerful, skiped E3, etc.

Just look at the video they have announced. It's good right? Now, how many of the people outside of the forums will watch? I tell you: nobody. They need to market, and presentation and percepcion is marketing.

The organization behind E3 is going to market the conferences more than anything else. And Nintendo is not going to be there because they don't have one. Imagine I'm a mainstream guy who bought a Wii Fit and don't enter to forums, therefore I never hear about NIntendo directs. The newspaper decided to give a column for E3, a small one, and I only read about boring conferences for Sony and MSFT. Where's Nintendo? I read about the Wii, the Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Resorts, Wii Play. But now?

That's the press. And it's better to be at their side even if they are the worst worms ever.

Nintendo have the power to try this at the Wii/DS era. Not now that they are struggling.



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Zero999 on 30 April 2014
MessiaH said:
They need to stay relevant. Not showing up at E3 is diminishing their relevance in the consumer's eye.

thank goodness they never stoped showing up at E3.



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VitroBahllee on 30 April 2014

No, I suddenly think the Nintendo apologists are right:

The Wii U will be number one after their online streaming event and crush the opponents and put them out of business. Not doing a traditional E3 conference is the thing that will save their struggling console.

Not sure why it took me so long to realize this obvious fact.



Zero999 on 30 April 2014
oniyide said:
VitroBahllee said:
I am quite capable of accepting that things could be done 'differently' for E3.

The question is: is Nintendo in a position to try to be super different about their conference right now?

Why didn't they try this 'experiment' when they were number one instead of when they are struggling to be on track to match their biggest home console failure?

They should try to do EVERYTHING right now: what they are planning on doing PLUS a regular E3 presentation.

This +10000 funny how when Ninty was on top, their e3s were great and it was expected they show up. Now that they are not all of a sudden, e3 isnt a big deal anyway and not showing up is fine...ok

The only funny thing I see is you making up this BS, saying people are saying E3 isn't a big deal. and worse, as if last year wasn't enough of a lesson for this subject, you keep trying to convince others that nintendo isn't showing up at E3. try harder.



Zappykins on 30 April 2014
Einsam_Delphin said:
Zappykins said:

Nintendo should have an E3 conference only if they want to succeed in America. It does effect other markets too, but it's really a North/South America thing.

If you have a good E3 you become a hot news topic - you show up as a major news story for a couple of days and even a week. . Microsoft had a huge on in '09 with the showing of 'Project Natal.' Kinect went on to become the fastest selling new device.  Nintendo did it when they launched the Wii too.  While there were plenty of other things that happened and what they did, I don't think that was a coincidence.

So does Nintendo really want to succed in the Americas?

Duh, why wouldn't they!? However, having a conference or not really has nothing to do with it. See Gamecube, 3DS prior to SM3DL/price cut, and Wii U prior to E3 2013. The Wii was successful not because of a conference, but simply because it was a highly appealing product thanks to it's revolutionary at the time motion controls and casual/non-gamer/etc. games that took advantage of them.

Right, so this is their time to Shine and show why we all really want to have a WiiU.

They should show a few game surprizes that really use the WiiTablet Controller and make us want to play that game.   Something that Microsoft can't do on SmartGlass or Sony on the Vita.  They started it with some Zombie U and how you could Zombie yourself.

Mario Cart for the Wii  with the had the wheel was something that just looked great to casuals and was fun to play with friends.  This is the time to show something like that with their tablet. 

Unless they are already planning on bring out the next thing soon.  (Which in reality they would be if they launch it in 2016-17.)

Note: I realize Mario Kart for the Wii was harder to play with the wheel vs Wiimote and Nunchuck, but it looked neat and I think significantly helped sales.



 

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Lonely_Dolphin on 30 April 2014
Zappykins said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

Duh, why wouldn't they!? However, having a conference or not really has nothing to do with it. See Gamecube, 3DS prior to SM3DL/price cut, and Wii U prior to E3 2013. The Wii was successful not because of a conference, but simply because it was a highly appealing product thanks to it's revolutionary at the time motion controls and casual/non-gamer/etc. games that took advantage of them.

Right, so this is their time to Shine and show why we all really want to have a WiiU.

They should show a few game surprizes that really use the WiiTablet Controller and make us want to play that game.   Something that Microsoft can't do on SmartGlass or Sony on the Vita.  They started it with some Zombie U and how you could Zombie yourself.

Mario Cart for the Wii  with the had the wheel was something that just looked great to casuals and was fun to play with friends.  This is the time to show something like that with their tablet. 

Unless they are already planning on bring out the next thing soon.  (Which in reality they would be if they launch it in 2016-17.)

Note: I realize Mario Kart for the Wii was harder to play with the wheel vs Wiimote and Nunchuck, but it looked neat and I think significantly helped sales.

Nintendo games. That's the only reason to want a Wii U! Nintendo can market it all they want, but it wont do any good. Nintendo games alone just are not enough to sell home consoles unfortunately.



the_dengle on 30 April 2014

"Nintendo is still going to have announcements and surprise games... Everyone's going to be tweeting about it; everyone's going to be talking about it, regardless of if they do it at E3 or they do it via video."

"So, we won't have a ton of the fanfare... but the end result is new game announcements... so maybe the format doesn't matter as much, right?"

"I still firmly believe E3 showmanship matters, but right now, regardless of the format, everything is on 'what is this video and what are you announcing'... That's all people care about."

This is a (shortened, obviously) conversation between Jose Otero (paragraphs 1 & 3) and Brian Altano on IGN. Can we put to rest this baseless myth that the media will ignore Nintendo's announcements just because they aren't made in front of a live audience? Here is the media itself saying they will still cover Nintendo's event and that what's important is the content of it, not how it is presented.