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Cobretti2 said:
JWeinCom said:
I would be disappointed if Nintendo did that. If I was looking for FPS games, I'd buy a PS4, XBone, or invest in a gaming PC. From a business perspective, it's a poor decision. Nintendo has more of an opportunity with Wii Fans, kids, and the Nintendo faithful who still haven't upgraded.


This is exactly why they need to EXPAND their genres so these kids that grow up don't leave the system for others that do have what they want.

Some kids will go to other consoles, some will stop gaming altogether, and some will stay loyal to Nintendo.  The beautiful thing though is that people are always fucking, so there are going to be more kids.  There will always be more non-gamers than gamers.

At this point, Nintendo has a system that's not catching on with much of anyone, while Sony has a system that is strongly resonating with hardcore gamers, and Microsoft has one that is doing well at least in the US.  Neither the XBox One or the PS4 has much in the way of family friendly content or anyting that goes outside the bounds of "hardcore" gaming which is an area Nintendo has always been strong with.

Where then does Nintendo's opportunity lie? If the Wii U is going to be a success, it's not going to be because Nintendo out FPSed two consoles that will be flooded with FPS in two years.  That would require massive resource development, and a complete shift in marketing.  Having Miyamoto, who has consistently shown an ability to connect with casual gamers, work on an FPS would be like hiring Infinity Ward to work on your new dating sim. If the Wii U is going to be a success, they need to reengage the casual market.

Ideally, third party content would fill the gap that Nintendo leaves, but clearly that's not happening. 



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DevilRising said:
I very, VERY seriously doubt Miyamoto will ever work on a violent FPS type game.

He said that he could make one. And of course he could. Who couldn't?

That doesn't mean that he ever would. Super-violent games aren't his style, and never will be.

Also, he has intimated in the past that the project he's working on is a bit of a side thing, a passion project, and also a "smaller project", meaning that it wouldn't be anything at all like some big "AAA" FPS type game.


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A game that revolves around the Galactic Federation from Metroid instead of Samus maybe?



JWeinCom said:
Cobretti2 said:
JWeinCom said:
I would be disappointed if Nintendo did that. If I was looking for FPS games, I'd buy a PS4, XBone, or invest in a gaming PC. From a business perspective, it's a poor decision. Nintendo has more of an opportunity with Wii Fans, kids, and the Nintendo faithful who still haven't upgraded.


This is exactly why they need to EXPAND their genres so these kids that grow up don't leave the system for others that do have what they want.

Some kids will go to other consoles, some will stop gaming altogether, and some will stay loyal to Nintendo.  The beautiful thing though is that people are always fucking, so there are going to be more kids.  There will always be more non-gamers than gamers.

At this point, Nintendo has a system that's not catching on with much of anyone, while Sony has a system that is strongly resonating with hardcore gamers, and Microsoft has one that is doing well at least in the US.  Neither the XBox One or the PS4 has much in the way of family friendly content or anyting that goes outside the bounds of "hardcore" gaming which is an area Nintendo has always been strong with.

Where then does Nintendo's opportunity lie? If the Wii U is going to be a success, it's not going to be because Nintendo out FPSed two consoles that will be flooded with FPS in two years.  That would require massive resource development, and a complete shift in marketing.  Having Miyamoto, who has consistently shown an ability to connect with casual gamers, work on an FPS would be like hiring Infinity Ward to work on your new dating sim. If the Wii U is going to be a success, they need to reengage the casual market.

Ideally, third party content would fill the gap that Nintendo leaves, but clearly that's not happening. 

The problem is people who can afford gaming are having less and less kids each generation as cost of living goes up (ie. wanting the <insert country> dream of owning your own house etc,,,). Poor people are the ones populating the planet at an alarming rate. Those are small fries who can't afford to buy games. Also who is to say that gaming won't die out with newer generation of kids?  We are hooked on gaming and they need to retain what they have has a risk mitigation if that were to ever happen.

There is nothing wrong with trying to retain your current gamers and capture new kids.

Why do you think Nintendo has been on a decline each gen (apart from Wii and it's blue ocean strategy)? It is because it can't retain its aging gamers. 



 

 

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Cobretti2 said:
JWeinCom said:
Cobretti2 said:
JWeinCom said:
I would be disappointed if Nintendo did that. If I was looking for FPS games, I'd buy a PS4, XBone, or invest in a gaming PC. From a business perspective, it's a poor decision. Nintendo has more of an opportunity with Wii Fans, kids, and the Nintendo faithful who still haven't upgraded.


This is exactly why they need to EXPAND their genres so these kids that grow up don't leave the system for others that do have what they want.

Some kids will go to other consoles, some will stop gaming altogether, and some will stay loyal to Nintendo.  The beautiful thing though is that people are always fucking, so there are going to be more kids.  There will always be more non-gamers than gamers.

At this point, Nintendo has a system that's not catching on with much of anyone, while Sony has a system that is strongly resonating with hardcore gamers, and Microsoft has one that is doing well at least in the US.  Neither the XBox One or the PS4 has much in the way of family friendly content or anyting that goes outside the bounds of "hardcore" gaming which is an area Nintendo has always been strong with.

Where then does Nintendo's opportunity lie? If the Wii U is going to be a success, it's not going to be because Nintendo out FPSed two consoles that will be flooded with FPS in two years.  That would require massive resource development, and a complete shift in marketing.  Having Miyamoto, who has consistently shown an ability to connect with casual gamers, work on an FPS would be like hiring Infinity Ward to work on your new dating sim. If the Wii U is going to be a success, they need to reengage the casual market.

Ideally, third party content would fill the gap that Nintendo leaves, but clearly that's not happening. 

The problem is people who can afford gaming are having less and less kids each generation as cost of living goes up (ie. wanting the dream of owning your own house etc,,,).

Errrrr... that's a pretty bold claim... I would need so see something backing them up.

Poor people are the ones populating the planet at an alarming rate.

Poverty is generally in decline worldwide.  In the US poverty spiced during the recession, but has generally been stable.  And poor kids play games.  I work in a school with a poverty rate of about 97%... Those kids love games.

Those are small fries who can't afford to buy games. Also who is to say that gaming won't die out with newer generation of kids?

 Gaming will die out with a newer generation of kids if companies like Nintendo don't focus on building up that market.

  We are hooked on gaming and they need to retain what they have has a risk mitigation if that were to ever happen.

There is nothing wrong with trying to retain your current gamers and capture new kids.

That's not what people are suggesting though.  People are suggesting that Nintendo go after the "hardcore" audience which is an audience they've never had success for.  In a world of unlimited resources, they could do this, but that's not reality. A few awesome FPS or hardcore games aren't going to be enough and the resources could be better spent attacking an area where Sony and MS are weaker.  

Why do you think Nintendo has been on a decline each gen (apart from Wii and it's blue ocean strategy)? It is because it can't retain its aging gamers. 

But the Wii was the success, so that's what they should be going for.  At any rate without third party support they CAN'T attack Sony and Microsoft on the "hardcore" front, so they'll need to focus on the audience that the others aren't reaching.





vivster said:
AZWification said:

Miyamoto's new IP will be a swimming simulator and it will our minds with its extremely advanced water physics!

It will be called "Water Temple HD"

...........Genius idea! Gamers are going to love it!



                
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AZWification said:
vivster said:
AZWification said:

Miyamoto's new IP will be a swimming simulator and it will our minds with its extremely advanced water physics!

It will be called "Water Temple HD"

...........Genius idea! Gamers are going to love it!


OoT Water Temple is one of the best dungeons in Zelda history.

Complains about it are a surprise.



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This is not a completely outlandish idea, Miyamato has said he think first person is the best camera angle for games. He also tried to make Ocarina of Time first person and it was his idea for Metroid to be first person. BUT, the idea that it would be like CoD or BF is EXTREMELY unlikely at best. A) it wouldn't be like other games and B) it's violence level would not go beyond the Metroid Prime series.



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Pavolink said:
AZWification said:
vivster said:
AZWification said:

Miyamoto's new IP will be a swimming simulator and it will our minds with its extremely advanced water physics!

It will be called "Water Temple HD"

...........Genius idea! Gamers are going to love it!


OoT Water Temple is one of the best dungeons in Zelda history.

Complains about it are a surprise.


I second this notion. And not in sarcasm either. It was a good dungeon, lots of puzzles, and if you are smart, it isn't that hard. It isn't the best(the best is stone tower temple) but it isn't the worst like people say it is.