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SubiyaCryolite on 09 April 2014
curl-6 said:
Zekkyou said:
It's most likely due to being 1080p/60fps instead of 720p/60fps. That's an awful lot of extra resources (225% more in-fact), 

Common mistake. It's 225% as much pixels, so 125% more.


Percentages aside the jump from 720p to 1080p requires significantly more power from any GPU. Its much worse when you throw any form of post process effects on top.  ask any PC gamer or look up any benchmarks.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

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curl-6 on 09 April 2014
SubiyaCryolite said:
curl-6 said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
One is 1080p, the other 720p. Smash would have looked much better at 720p due to freed resources. Currently it looks 'fine', not necessarily bad or OMG awesome either.

I keep hearing that Smash is 1080p but I haven't been able to find confirmation from Ninty. I can only find second hand articles that could be making the old mistaking-upscaled-for-native goof, haha.


Its in the screenshots. Unlike Kart, 3D World and Tropical freese every press release has very few aliasing artifacts. And the ones that do have 'tiny' 1080p like pixels. As oppossed to the more obvious ones in tropical freeze for example.

I do find it curious that Nintendo chose to go with 1080p with Smash Bros though, when 720p has been the standard for just about all their other Wii U games. It's strange.

In any case, if this holds true for the final release it will go a long way towards explaining its more modest graphics compared to Mario Kart.



curl-6 on 09 April 2014
RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:
RolStoppable said:
Namco sucks, that's why.

Do we know how much of the development Namco are actually doing? Are they responsible for the graphics?

What else would they be responsible for? Controls, gameplay and soundtracks are well established, that only leaves more required manpower for graphics.

Fair point. Looking back over their catalogue, they don't seem to be a dev associated with high end graphics.



SubiyaCryolite on 09 April 2014

Native 1080p pics below, even with miracle AA a 720p image cannot look that sharp especially on a PC screen. The aliasing on Zelda's dress (2nd shot) screams 1080p. Straight edges of Links sword has zero aliasing, and that's usually a very easy way to notice jaggies.







I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

AZWification on 09 April 2014

But I thought we Nintendo fans didn't care about graphics!



                
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fedfed on 09 April 2014

still day one for me



Switch!!!

Vladez on 09 April 2014

First you say:

[...] the two series were never known for their impressive graphics and art design

So, if those series have always been extremely successful both commercially and critically and they were never really known for impresive graphics, then impresive graphics are not really expected for them and that's fine. They more than make up for it in gameplay excellence.

So then, why are you complaining about SSB's graphics calling them "dissapointing"?



 

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Mr Khan on 09 April 2014
curl-6 said:
RolStoppable said:
Namco sucks, that's why.

Do we know how much of the development Namco are actually doing? Are they responsible for the graphics?

They seem to be, since the Direct showed him off at the Bamco studios. Basically serving Game Arts' role from Brawl, being under "Sora's" supervision, but mostly in a manpower way, not a creative way.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Mr Khan on 09 April 2014
SubiyaCryolite said:

Native 1080p pics below, even with miracle AA a 720p image cannot look that sharp especially on a PC screen. The aliasing on Zelda's dress (2nd shot) screams 1080p. Straight edges of Links sword has zero aliasing, and that's usually a very easy way to notice jaggies.

Some of what this shows is the schizophrenic nature of the Smash U shots: these images do look GREAT, well ahead of Brawl and fitting for Wii U's capabilities, others look pretty poor. It's odd. Could just be a work-in-progress thing.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

episteme on 09 April 2014

https://www.flickr.com/photos/48280274@N02/sets/72157643678092364/

It looks pretty good in my opinion, but there are some low res bottom textures and the audience in the boxing stage is pretty ugly. And I don't like the ape models that much.

Nintendo games get their graphical polish in the last months. That's why they usually look better from trailer to trailer, especially shader effects and lighting.