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chocoloco said:
Gamefly will ride out strong no matter what.

I think Pachter is correct in believing most new content will take some time before it will reach the service. There are a ton of great old content to make his service great even if the newest stuff is not immediately there.

Are people really looking to pay lets say 8 bucks a month to re-live PS1/PS2 games.  If so for how long would you be willing to pay.  At best I would see people willing to pay for about 3 to 4 months then after that drop the service because they have relived their past and paying 8 bucks and not use the server starts to feel bad.



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The pach attack, always talking shizzzzz, The guy is 99% wrong all the time. LOl So I wouldn't worry until you have some one of better knowledge looking it over.



Everyone hates him again now. Next week when he says something about Microsoft and Nintendo. He'll be smart again. 

On the contrary, he could have gone with, "Playstation Now is a joke".  Certainly more hits. 



Machiavellian said:
chocoloco said:
Gamefly will ride out strong no matter what.

I think Pachter is correct in believing most new content will take some time before it will reach the service. There are a ton of great old content to make his service great even if the newest stuff is not immediately there.

Are people really looking to pay lets say 8 bucks a month to re-live PS1/PS2 games.  If so for how long would you be willing to pay.  At best I would see people willing to pay for about 3 to 4 months then after that drop the service because they have relived their past and paying 8 bucks and not use the server starts to feel bad.


They are using Killzone 3 in the demo. 2 years ago is still late last gen games. I always thought the cloud would be initially a service that allowed backwards compatibility with last gen.The Library should be gigantic and offer PS exclusive content that many non-PS3 owners and others missed. It is a great service I think for a lot of people.

I cannot say how big it will be. The gaming habits of millions of people vary a lot. Not even close to every gamer is in the know of all the newest games and when, or what comes out. I think like netfix it should offer a service for people to play things after the fact. I really think there is a big market for this. Pachter just phrases things to get a reaction. And, It does not make any sense to me to put most new content on the service. I still think it can be profitable and that is a big thing. Not a monsterous hit, but profitable.



Good thing then that most titles for PSNow will be older than 2 years :)



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Fifaguy360 said:
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I think we need to look to Netflix for how PS Now may operate, and I don't think that Patcher is that far off the mark. With Netflix you almost never get 'new' movies, so I agree that we won't be seeing "GTA 6" launching for streaming same day as launch.

But, as others have pointed out, PS Now is more or less going to support older games, which is where Netflix shines with movies/tv shows. On your PS3/4 you'll be able to have an entire series instantly at your fingertips.

On Netflix people can binge on 7 seasons on The Office all at once, and with PS Now people will be able to binge on the Metal Gear Solid series all at once.

While there are tons of games that were amazing for their time, I don't think most people will be going back to them. Maybe only 1 or 2 titles will rekindle a short interest. PS3 games, yes to clear up a backlog and then unsubscribe when you're done, but PS1/2 not really.

For example, I sunk 100s of hours into GTA3 on PS2, but would I go back to ever play it? With the likes of GTA5 out, not a chance.

It's a little different from Netflix, where you have entire seasons which are chronological in story line that you'd want to watch. Video media is different to games because it is a passive past time. So while you would be willnig to go back and watch Groundhog Day again, like most people you won't play DMC1 because it's a  "been there done that" kind of deal.

That is my prediction. PS NOW won't appeal because people are not that interested in paying to play such old titles.

I honestly think that the backlog for PS1/2/3 is big enough that people won't be able to 'catch up'.  Heck, I've had a PS3 since launch and there are probably still enough games I haven't played that could keep me occupied for years.

But we shall see, you may be right.  I think that the cost is going to be a huge factor (duh) because people have gotten used to streaming service prices.  Netflix is $8 while Spotify is $10.  If they come out of the gate with a $20 price tag I don't think its going to fly.

(btw, I'm glad that there are still people on this site who can disagree and have a civil conversation, thanks)

 

EDIT: Some more thoughts I had:  These streaming services let people be more adventurous with their entertainment choices.  I have watched so many movies on netflix that I would have NEVER paid to see in the theater or on DVD.  The risk is taken out because if I don't like it I didn't waste any money.  I think that the same thing will happen with PS Now, where people will start playing games they may never have paid for, and thus "opens up" the catologue of games.  So not only will people play the hits, but they will also play the average games.  "Oh I would have never paid money to play 'Rage', but since there is no risk I'll give it a try"



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Machiavellian said:
kitler53 said:
he's got something of a point. what is sony's business model? if it starts out only playing ps3 games who's paying for this service? i certainly wouldn't pay much, if at all, for this service.

promising,. but i need to see better value.

I believe you hit it right on the head.  What is Sony business model.  First out of the gate will be PS Vita, PS4, Bravia and PS3 devices.  Out of those devices what will be the uptake for the service.  Next will be price.  How much will the service cost.  The cost part will be very important.  I believe anything over the cost of streaming services like Netflix, Hulu Plus etc will meet with a lot of resistance.  Last but not least, is this target market to play PS1/PS2/PS3 games really that large.

I am really interested to see how the service performs, the pricing structure and the demand.  I personally am not the target because I have a PS3.  I have PS Plus and I have no interest in playing PS1/PS2 games.

yep, that right there.   the tech seems amazing but i also have less than zero interest in ps1 games.  ps2 has some classics i'd replay but very few and i'd pay very little for them.  ps3 is kind of cool, for now.  i year or two down the road it will be just like ps2,..  a few classics but very few i'd still want to be paying any money for.

new games is where this service would be spectacular and it won't have it at launch.  ps+ got better with time so hopefully it will be the same with psnow but at launch i can't see myself using the service UNLESS,.. they give me free access to ps+ titles to play my ps3 backcatalog on ps4 or free access with my current ps3 digital library.    ...not sure i see that happening though.

the business model is what will make or break this service.



ethomaz said:
He just forget Sony already to that with PS+... so publishers are not allowing that for big titles like DmC, BioShock Infinte, Red Dead Redemption, etc.

All big players are on side of Sony right now.


Eh, when were they not? 3rd party is equal between ms and sony (despite some money-related games).



Pachter is a joke.
I'm sure there will be many people interested in this including me since I didn't own a PS3.



    

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Oh Pachter. Back to your classic ways of downing anything Playstation related, I see.



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