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what kind of hack tool is that guy talking about in the pic? do i dare follow that link?



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Carl2291 said:
Normchacho said:

 


If its bannable then the moderators need to be consitent on it. One person cant be banned while another is let off, and I say this as someone who spends a lot of time here mocking people for being stupid.

I have been in the thread, Ive read the entire thing. You need to look at the context. At who hes talking about/to and why he said it.

The first quote, about jumping up and down and clapping. Hes talking about the people laughing about the situation in the OP and the first post. The 2 tweets in the thread are laughing at the whole thing and the first post is simply "lulz". The topic itself is relatively old news and people are laughing about it (presumably thinkiing its gonna be negative for Xbox).

That much is obvious. I dont see it as insulting at all. The only people who would be insulted by that, would be the people who are guilty of doing it.

Telling someone to educate themselves on the topic at hand, while posting in said topic, I dont think can be classed as insulting neither. He worded it strongly. Could have been nicer about it, could have been ruder. To moderate for an aggressive tone is also unheard of here.

It just sits with me as a very, very harsh ban. I could understand a telling off or a general warning, but a Week long ban for it is steep. Especially steep, when you consider that the one word "lulz", troll/spam post didnt even get moderated.

Selective moderation is bad. There has to be consistency.

Talal said:

He always acts condescending. He has been warned about that in the past many times. That's probably why he got banned. 

Which is nothing but a rubbish ruling.

Different people have different posting styles. Some people post in a more aggressive/negative tone (see kowenicki and KylieDog for examples). Some people are always happy and quirky (See Smeags and NintendoPie). Some people dont know the language as well as others and some people are more eloquent.

I just think its a really harsh ban. Like I said, I can understand a warning for the first jumping and clapping comment, but the moderation on the second has me puzzled.


The first quotes are at best condescending and the third one is just a flat out unprovoked insult. I also don't agree that someone shouldn't be banned because they are always rude. If anything that should make them more open to bans, that's probably why we was banned.

There are simply not enough mods for them to catch everything and lets be honest, if they modded everything that deserved it this website would be a different place. I'm pretty sure we've all posted modderation worthy things that never got modderated. But that doesn't mean they should stop modderating things when they catch them.



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i get depressed every time i see this... more than 5 years here, still no ban... definitely not in the cool kids club... :(



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sergiodaly said:
i get depressed every time i see this... more than 5 years here, still no ban... definitely not in the cool kids club... :(

just insult the mods for having the worst taste in games or somthing, and then tell them they aint sexy, should do the trick.



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Normchacho said:

The first quotes are at best condescending and the third one is just a flat out unprovoked insult. I also don't agree that someone shouldn't be banned because they are always rude. If anything that should make them more open to bans, that's probably why we was banned.

There are simply not enough mods for them to catch everything and lets be honest, if they modded everything that deserved it this website would be a different place. I'm pretty sure we've all posted modderation worthy things that never got modderated. But that doesn't mean they should stop modderating things when they catch them.


I guess it depends how you interpret them. I reaaaaally dont see it as insulting. For the record, kow isnt always rude, he can be though. Id agree that someone who is always condescending towards others should be put into line, but we dont really have anyone here who always talks down to people.

I agree that there arent enough mods however. Ive been saying that for a good long while.
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Anyway, on the subject of consitency. I thought Id put it to the test yesterday.

kow was banned for being rude and confrontational, basically. Condescending. Insulting. Baiting people into arguments? They all tie in together anyway. Give it a few hours and I see a thread pop up about Project Spark.

Look at some of the comments in this thread between JayWood2010 and pokoko. Ill post them here.

pokoko said:
JayWood2010 said:

Yes, avaliable platforms.  Xbox One, Windows 8, and im not sure about X360.  Windows 8 and Xbox One uses cloud saves so you can use them on each platform back and forth with cloud saves. 

No reason to be pissed, its a way for them to sell their platform just like sony putting infamous on PS4, Mario on WiiU, and Halo on XBO.  Business works this way. They could have just made it for XBO if they wanted to.

No kidding.  They could have made it for Sega Game Gear if they wanted.  Don't tell me how business works.

Oh, well.  I'm not buying Windows 8 for this.  Interest gone.

So, the hostility starts here when pokoko was initially pissed off about Windows 8 being needed and was being sarcastic about the whole thing. JayWood simply told him why Windows 8 was needed (which is obvious by the way) and we get to this point.

JayWood2010 said:
pokoko said:

 Don't tell me how business works.


Then act mature instead of acting entitled.

Nothing initially wrong with pokoko's reply, but JayWood2010's responce of "act mature instead of acting entitled" is just as bad as, if not worse than anything kowenicki said to get banned. Its certainly condescending, confrontational and rude. JayWood wasnt even warned after a report.

JayWood2010 said:
pokoko said:

Entitled?  Because I don't want to buy a new copy of Windows?  Stop being condescending, you lack the ability to pull it off.  Also, stop telling other people how to feel about something, you haven't the right.

Not being condescending for one.  Youre getting all puffed up because i said that is how a business works.  Calm yourself instead of being sarcastic and rude. If you disagree with me then so be it but your attitude is uncalled for.  I guess things just "piss you off in the blink of an eye"....

Yes, it carries on.

As you can see here, they both end up throwing "insults" at eachother. Calling eachother condescending, rude, puffed up, sarcastic.

Not only are they going back and forth at eachother with petty digs, theyre dragging the thread off topic.

JayWood2010 said:
pokoko said:

My attitude?  You decided to be petty by calling me immature and entitled simply because I didn't like the Windows 8 decision.  I mean, really, what the hell?  I want no part of your small-minded mud-slinging.  You want to insult someone because they disagree with you?  I really would rather not have a conversation with you.  Falling back on insults is not mature.


Wrong, i told you to be mature because of this  "pissed off in the blink of an eye" makes you sound entitled.  Word it better.  I was not once upset until the sarcastic ass comments after my original comment about it being a business.  As for the one insulting who, might want to relook your posts there.   And we really wouldnt be having this problem if it wasnt for what i highlighted for you.

Again this isnt about disagreement but rather your sarcastic attitude. "No kidding.  They could have made it for Sega Game Gear if they wanted.  Don't tell me how business works."

Clearly a comment meant to be nice and informing right?  

Yes, it carries on.

pokoko calls JayWood2010 petty. Says its "small-minded mud-slinging". 

JayWood kinda tried to calm things down at this stage, it seems, though he follows it up with the sarcastic last line.

JayWood2010 said:
pokoko said:

You're telling me I can't be annoyed if I find out I can't have a game I wanted?  Stop being so smug.  You do not have the right to tell me when I can be annoyed or not.  Can you not understand that?  Is that totally beyond you?

I really don't want to be drawn into your petty crap.  You start these fights over nothing.  The next time you go out of your way to insult me, I'll report you.  Just go away.


Dude i could care less if you get the game really xD  There is no reason to be mad.  If you want it get W8, XBO, or X360 for it.  If not then dont.  I want KZ SF but i dont have a ps4 yet.  im not going to be pissed about it though, ill just wait until i get a ps4 to play it.

Im not even being petty xD I see things differently, Relax a little bit.  Then report me.  As i see it, youre the one throwing insults left and right. im just too small-minded to realize this though xD

Yes, it carries on.

pokoko calls JayWood2010 smug and continues to be aggressive with his posting style. Very rude. Very condescending.

It ends here.

The problem is, JayWood2010 and pokoko were going back and forward at eachother. They were being rude to eachother. They were off topic. They were "insulting" eachother. They were being condescending. They were being far worse than kowenicki was in the Elop thread, in which he got banned for 7 days.

Where is the consitency? These posts were reported for the exact reason of proving the inconsistency of the moderation and you guys just proved me right by not even handing out a warning or a post in the thread telling them to cut it out.



                            

I just saw that ZaneWane is finally perma'd.

I want a mod to either tell me why, or unblock his profile so I can snoop.



                            

Carl2291 said:
I just saw that ZaneWane is finally perma'd.

I want a mod to either tell me why, or unblock his profile so I can snoop.

Why even have the option to hide your profile from everyone?  What is even the purpose of doing that? I understand if it were an option to hide your profile from certain users you don't like, but from everyone? I really don't get it.



                
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Carl2291 said:
Normchacho said:

 


I guess it depends how you interpret them. I reaaaaally dont see it as insulting. For the record, kow isnt always rude, he can be though. Id agree that someone who is always condescending towards others should be put into line, but we dont really have anyone here who always talks down to people.

I agree that there arent enough mods however. Ive been saying that for a good long while.
_____________

Anyway, on the subject of consitency. I thought Id put it to the test yesterday.

kow was banned for being rude and confrontational, basically. Condescending. Insulting. Baiting people into arguments? They all tie in together anyway. Give it a few hours and I see a thread pop up about Project Spark.

Look at some of the comments in this thread between JayWood2010 and pokoko. Ill post them here.


The problem is, JayWood2010 and pokoko were going back and forward at eachother. They were being rude to eachother. They were off topic. They were "insulting" eachother. They were being condescending. They were being far worse than kowenicki was in the Elop thread, in which he got banned for 7 days.

Where is the consitency? These posts were reported for the exact reason of proving the inconsistency of the moderation and you guys just proved me right by not even handing out a warning or a post in the thread telling them to cut it out.


You're 100% right. There is a pretty deep lack of consistency here at times. I think our only disagreement is whether Kow should have been banned or not in light of the inconsistency. I personally think he still should have been because if the mods are going to skip thing they do catch then why have mods at all? You can see in this thread where they talk about have piles of reports to go through, just because they can't catch everything doesn't mean they should just stop altogether.



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Mummelmann said:
Barozi said:
Nice work. I hope you had fun doing it.


Were you one of the spambots?

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