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Forums - General - So George Zimmerman shot a boy who's not old enough to drink, 2 times in the back, and 1 to 6 times in the balls (like Robocop) in self defense?

Kaizar on 18 February 2014
shio said:
Kaizar said:
shio said:

Zimmerman had a broken nose and two black eyes. Trayvon would've continued to throw punches, and one of them could land right in the eye and blind Zimmerman permanently, or knockout Zimmerman and give him brain damage. Trayvon gave no signs to stop the beating, so Zimmerman had the right to defend himself.

The eye witness seemed like he could easily beat Zimmerman. And there was no indication that he was threatened to lie in court, he was very calm in the trial.

PS: One interesting bit of info: Trayvon was the only one used racist insults. He called Zimmerman a "creepy-ass cracker" when Trayvon was on the phone with his friend.


Except you can get medical marijuana to regain your eyes from such a thing. And marijuana has been 100% proven to make people recover very fast from brain damage.

And the story about being beaten up for over 3 minutes and not getting your gun out during all that time, but then all of a sudden get your gun out and shot the skinny dude dead, when the fat dude has plenty of fat, shows the guy had no reason to shot the dude, when he was never doing so the first several minutes. So what was the need to all of a sudden pull a gun out and shit him.....it's total obvious bullcrap reason to shot someone beating you. And why come the eye-witness never did anything to help? Is it so hard to ask people to also question all of these things.

Whaaat?! Now I know you're trolling. Marijuana doesn't heal ripped eyes or brain damage (it can't be cured).

Bahahaaa, so now you lost all the argument! You're saying Zimmerman had no reason to shoot because he was being beaten up for too long?! You're insane. So tell me, how long does a person need to be beat up to lose all right to defend himself? 1 minute? 2 minutes? In your logic, Zimmerman would have no right to defend himself if he was being beaten up for 5 hours, since it's too long.

If your mother was being beaten up for 5 minutes (and she had a gun), you don't think she should defend herself?! Or 20 minutes? or 3 hours?

The witness in the trial was smart enough not to jump to the fight. He doesn't know what's going on, or who's the good guy, or the bad guy. He called 911, and then went to the see the rest of the fight. Why would he risk his life?

You clearly don't watch news, because you know nothing about recent findings of the guaranteed effects of marijuana. Have you ever heard of Anderson Cooper at least?

I'm saying that why didn't Zimmerman pull the gun during the first several minutes, and then just decided to pull it out after several mintues of being beaten.

The witness still could have broken them apart, and chase down anyone who would run away. After calling 911 first.

If my mother was being beaten up, she would have use the gun in the first 30 seconds just like everyone else in that situation. Not after 5 minutes for crying out loud. Just like everyone else in that situation.

I'm just questioning both sides, but no one here seems to be questioning Zimmerman bizarre scenario he painted.



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Max King of the Wild on 28 April 2014

Wow, I missed this thread first go around. It's my personal experience that most people who called for the head of Zimmerman didn't follow the trial and only listened to the initial botched media coverage. If they didn't say he was white then there would be no public outcry to get a special prosecution to try Zimmerman. They also edited tapes to make him sound like he jumped to conclusions faster than he did. Also, reported that he called Trayvon a coon when he said punk.

Zimmerman called the non emergency police line. It wasn't even based off of race. It was based off of what clothes Trayvon was wearing, not being recognizable in a close knit gated community and casually walking in poor weather conditions.

Trayvon was bashing Zimmermans head into the ground continuously and Zimmerman was calling for help as reported by multiple witnesses.

Zimmerman shot one bullet into the chest that hit the heart.

Police investigate. Don't press charges. Media gets wind and botches coverage. Trial. Facts come out. Not guilty verdict.



Kaizar on 28 April 2014
Max King of the Wild said:
Wow, I missed this thread first go around. It's my personal experience that most people who called for the head of Zimmerman didn't follow the trial and only listened to the initial botched media coverage. If they didn't say he was white then there would be no public outcry to get a special prosecution to try Zimmerman. They also edited tapes to make him sound like he jumped to conclusions faster than he did. Also, reported that he called Trayvon a coon when he said punk.

Zimmerman called the non emergency police line. It wasn't even based off of race. It was based off of what clothes Trayvon was wearing, not being recognizable in a close knit gated community and casually walking in poor weather conditions.

Trayvon was bashing Zimmermans head into the ground continuously and Zimmerman was calling for help as reported by multiple witnesses.

Zimmerman shot one bullet into the chest that hit the heart.

Police investigate. Don't press charges. Media gets wind and botches coverage. Trial. Facts come out. Not guilty verdict.

You must be talking about these:

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Max King of the Wild on 28 April 2014

I'm not going to waste my time watching the crappy videos you posted. I followed the trial and got my facts straight from the source. How about you say EXACTLY what point you are trying to make so I can tell you the actual facts.



Kaizar on 28 April 2014
Max King of the Wild said:
I'm not going to waste my time watching the crappy videos you posted. I followed the trial and got my facts straight from the source. How about you say EXACTLY what point you are trying to make so I can tell you the actual facts.


And I get my facts straight from George Zimmerman & his brother.



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Max King of the Wild on 28 April 2014
Kaizar said:
Max King of the Wild said:
I'm not going to waste my time watching the crappy videos you posted. I followed the trial and got my facts straight from the source. How about you say EXACTLY what point you are trying to make so I can tell you the actual facts.


And I get my facts straight from George Zimmerman & his brother.


Looking at the thread title looks like you get facts from.... well.... a wild imagination from some crazy individual somewhere in la la land. I have no clue where you get your facts from but they are anything BUT facts.

Throughout this entire thread you have posted nothing but misinformation when you actually do say something or videos that I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. You have had absolutely nothing worth saying yet. So, tell me out right what point you are making and what facts you think you have



Kaizar on 28 April 2014
Max King of the Wild said:
Kaizar said:
Max King of the Wild said:
I'm not going to waste my time watching the crappy videos you posted. I followed the trial and got my facts straight from the source. How about you say EXACTLY what point you are trying to make so I can tell you the actual facts.


And I get my facts straight from George Zimmerman & his brother.


Looking at the thread title looks like you get facts from.... well.... a wild imagination from some crazy individual somewhere in la la land. I have no clue where you get your facts from but they are anything BUT facts.

Throughout this entire thread you have posted nothing but misinformation when you actually do say something or videos that I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. You have had absolutely nothing worth saying yet. So, tell me out right what point you are making and what facts you think you have

The thread title is to draw peoplein for discussion.

George Zimmerman lied to the judge about how much money he had and was caught red handed.

During interviews, he can't even be consistent with the story of his own that he's telling.

There is only one reason for a man charge for murder, to not be consistent with his own story 100% of the time, and that is that he is withholding info of the brawl and/or lying. And there is only one reason why a person going thru a murder trial would withhold info and/or lie of the event, and that is that the info and/or truth will find him guilty if he had told the whole story.

either way, he either did not tell the truth and/or did not tell the whole truth because the information he has of the event would have him sent to prison. To add insult to injury, he was already caught red-handed for lying about other stuff to the judge & jury, like how much money he has, (remember the bail) which shows that he is a naturally dishonest person.



Max King of the Wild on 28 April 2014
Kaizar said:

The thread title is to draw peoplein for discussion.

George Zimmerman lied to the judge about how much money he had and was caught red handed.

During interviews, he can't even be consistent with the story of his own that he's telling.

There is only one reason for a man charge for murder, to not be consistent with his own story 100% of the time, and that is that he is withholding info of the brawl and/or lying. And there is only one reason why a person going thru a murder trial would withhold info and/or lie of the event, and that is that the info and/or truth will find him guilty if he had told the whole story.

either way, he either did not tell the truth and/or did not tell the whole truth because the information he has of the event would have him sent to prison. To add insult to injury, he was already caught red-handed for lying about other stuff to the judge & jury, like how much money he has, (remember the bail) which shows that he is a naturally dishonest person.

 

No, you actually believed it.

Shellie Zimmerman did. The original Judge on the case was shown to be biased against George and a commitee reassigned another Judge onto the case.

Ironically, a sign of telling the truth. Variations in stories are expected each time it's told so your entire next point is invalid.



Kaizar on 29 April 2014
Max King of the Wild said:
Kaizar said:

The thread title is to draw peoplein for discussion.

George Zimmerman lied to the judge about how much money he had and was caught red handed.

During interviews, he can't even be consistent with the story of his own that he's telling.

There is only one reason for a man charge for murder, to not be consistent with his own story 100% of the time, and that is that he is withholding info of the brawl and/or lying. And there is only one reason why a person going thru a murder trial would withhold info and/or lie of the event, and that is that the info and/or truth will find him guilty if he had told the whole story.

either way, he either did not tell the truth and/or did not tell the whole truth because the information he has of the event would have him sent to prison. To add insult to injury, he was already caught red-handed for lying about other stuff to the judge & jury, like how much money he has, (remember the bail) which shows that he is a naturally dishonest person.

 

No, you actually believed it.

Shellie Zimmerman did. The original Judge on the case was shown to be biased against George and a commitee reassigned another Judge onto the case.

Ironically, a sign of telling the truth. Variations in stories are expected each time it's told so your entire next point is invalid.

If he was telling the truth, then he would have just given the same account of the event each and every time. The story wouldn't change.

He is either delusional & in denial killer, or he is lying.

Joseph Smith pulled the samething with the creation of the Mormon faith. Different variation each time he told the story to the publisher.

And Zimmerman was caught lying about many other things 100% red handed, like how much money he has. The guy clearly is a pathological liar.

 

Plus; what was George Zimmerman motive for following a young black male around, that he had suspected had stolen a few dollars worth of things from a liquor store?

Why would George Zimmerman care soo extremely much about a stolen slim Jim or skittles, or whatever he thought was stolen?

Plus, it turned out the dude didn't even stole anything. So he followed & killed the black teenager for nothing. Where were the weapons of mass destruction? (LOL, at Iraq pond)



Max King of the Wild on 29 April 2014
Kaizar said:

If he was telling the truth, then he would have just given the same account of the event each and every time. The story wouldn't change.

He is either delusional & in denial killer, or he is lying.

Joseph Smith pulled the samething with the creation of the Mormon faith. Different variation each time he told the story to the publisher.

And Zimmerman was caught lying about many other things 100% red handed, like how much money he has. The guy clearly is a pathological liar.


if he was caught perjurizing himself then you can be assured he would face felony charges. he wasnt because he didnt. its obvious you dont listen to facts. As for different accounts of the story each time, again, thats a sign of telling tbe truth. you know, what the lie detector test that he took determined