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Mr Puggsly on 05 February 2014
Kaizar said:


So you side with Fox News Channel & the tea party on the Trayvon Martin case, while I side with 80% of all Americans on not killing as a first resort, which is George Zimmerman account of the manslaughter.

I honestly have no idea what you're babbling about.

No jury in their right mind could have convicted Zimmerman of manslaughter based on what we know.

He didn't kill as a first resort, he used the gun after taking a beating and getting his head smashed into the ground. Are you aware of any of this? Do your sources ignore this?



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Kasz216 on 05 February 2014
d21lewis said:
Zimmerman shot Tupac.

My money is on Puffy.

Biggie too.


I mean look who made it out on top.

Biggie down, 2Pac down, suge in jail.

Puffy goes from goofy ass Silk the Shocker like sidekick to huge star making bank off the label.



Kasz216 on 05 February 2014

I'll put it this way.

If Trayvon was hispanic, or Zimmerman was Black, the trial would of never happened.

If the races were reversed, it wouldn't of happened.

Hell if Zimmerman was properly reported as hispanic, it wouldn't of happened.


Only way a trial happens is if someone is white/portrayed white. (One way or another).

Chances are in none of these race changed circumstances is Zimmerman convicted. (Maybe if he was black and his victim was white, but even that would of been a long stretch ripe for appeal.)



Kaizar on 05 February 2014
shio said:
Kaizar said:
shio said:
Kaizar said:

It didn't kill as a last resort, he killed as a first resort out of the numerous different ways he couldn't have handle his version of what happen.

Pew all know George Zimmerman killed as a first resort, and that's by going by his account.

Therefore he is 100% guilty of manslaughter base on his own account for crying out loud.

Stop saying false things. Zimmerman used the gun as a last resort, we have concrete proof of that. We have a strong witness saying that Zimmerman was calling for help and trying to defend himself from the flurry of punches that Trayvon was throwing, and this happened for a while. After a few minutes of Zimmerman trying to get away and recieving a beating from Trayvon, he then used the gun and shot only once.

Zimmerman would have to shoot straight away at Trayvon and be spared from the beating for you to have an argument that he used as a first resort.


He could have just still try not to do anything else. The guy was really fat against a really skinny teen. And I've seen the pictures of him after the event, and it doesn't look like much of a beating.

There was still no reason to shoot the teen. Zimmerman wouldn't have anything permanent if he had kept taking punches, but taking a life on the other hand is a permanent thing.

P.S. the eye witness might have been someone he had beat him up to say Trayvon did it.

Zimmerman had a broken nose and two black eyes. Trayvon would've continued to throw punches, and one of them could land right in the eye and blind Zimmerman permanently, or knockout Zimmerman and give him brain damage. Trayvon gave no signs to stop the beating, so Zimmerman had the right to defend himself.

The eye witness seemed like he could easily beat Zimmerman. And there was no indication that he was threatened to lie in court, he was very calm in the trial.

PS: One interesting bit of info: Trayvon was the only one used racist insults. He called Zimmerman a "creepy-ass cracker" when Trayvon was on the phone with his friend.


Except you can get medical marijuana to regain your eyes from such a thing. And marijuana has been 100% proven to make people recover very fast from brain damage.

And the story about being beaten up for over 3 minutes and not getting your gun out during all that time, but then all of a sudden get your gun out and shot the skinny dude dead, when the fat dude has plenty of fat, shows the guy had no reason to shot the dude, when he was never doing so the first several minutes. So what was the need to all of a sudden pull a gun out and shit him.....it's total obvious bullcrap reason to shot someone beating you. And why come the eye-witness never did anything to help? Is it so hard to ask people to also question all of these things.



Kaizar on 05 February 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
Kaizar said:


So you side with Fox News Channel & the tea party on the Trayvon Martin case, while I side with 80% of all Americans on not killing as a first resort, which is George Zimmerman account of the manslaughter.

I honestly have no idea what you're babbling about.

No jury in their right mind could have convicted Zimmerman of manslaughter based on what we know.

He didn't kill as a first resort, he used the gun after taking a beating and getting his head smashed into the ground. Are you aware of any of this? Do your sources ignore this?

The problem is that George Zimmerman is unreliable for the truth. He was caught lying to the judge numerous times, including on his statement on how much money he & his wife had. He has been caught red-handed lying to the judge and jury about many other things, and theres no way in hell you can trust a person who has a habit of lying all the time. So why should anyone believe he was telling the truth about the incident? Since he was caught lying about a million other things. He is clearly a dishonest person to begin with.



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Kaizar on 05 February 2014
Kasz216 said:
d21lewis said:
Zimmerman shot Tupac.

My money is on Puffy.

Biggie too.


I mean look who made it out on top.

Biggie down, 2Pac down, suge in jail.

Puffy goes from goofy ass Silk the Shocker like sidekick to huge star making bank off the label.


LOL

but for some seriousness about Tupac's murder; all evidence points to Suge Knight being the one who set up Tupac's murder, because Tupac was leaving his label.

A honest White Cop lost his job for claiming that over half a dozen black cops were corrupt. They later on took care of the dirty black cops, but by the time they did that, it was way too little, way too late.

Today a lot of people now finally know who shot Tupac, and that OJ is innocent and that the white American college woman who was an Italy is also innocent and that John & Patsy Ramsey are innocent.



Mr Puggsly on 06 February 2014
Kaizar said:

The problem is that George Zimmerman is unreliable for the truth. He was caught lying to the judge numerous times, including on his statement on how much money he & his wife had. He has been caught red-handed lying to the judge and jury about many other things, and theres no way in hell you can trust a person who has a habit of lying all the time. So why should anyone believe he was telling the truth about the incident? Since he was caught lying about a million other things. He is clearly a dishonest person to begin with.

Nobody is under the illusion Zimmerman is an angel. Nor was Trayvon, he had some illegal activities under his belt and apparently used a racial slur while on the phone.

Once again, lets bear in mind the gun wasn't used until Zimmerman took a severe beating. IF Zimmerman had no injuries and there was no reason to believe he was in danger, he would be in prision. But based on what we know, he couldn't have been convictived of the charages.



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Kasz216 on 06 February 2014

Oh, and for the celebrity boxing match.

 

 

If Zimmerman's smart, even if he thinks he can win he'll take a dive.  On the off chance he works himself into enough shape to beat DMX it'll just set off the shitstorm all over again and dude will be legit murdered.



shio on 06 February 2014
Kaizar said:
shio said:

Zimmerman had a broken nose and two black eyes. Trayvon would've continued to throw punches, and one of them could land right in the eye and blind Zimmerman permanently, or knockout Zimmerman and give him brain damage. Trayvon gave no signs to stop the beating, so Zimmerman had the right to defend himself.

The eye witness seemed like he could easily beat Zimmerman. And there was no indication that he was threatened to lie in court, he was very calm in the trial.

PS: One interesting bit of info: Trayvon was the only one used racist insults. He called Zimmerman a "creepy-ass cracker" when Trayvon was on the phone with his friend.


Except you can get medical marijuana to regain your eyes from such a thing. And marijuana has been 100% proven to make people recover very fast from brain damage.

And the story about being beaten up for over 3 minutes and not getting your gun out during all that time, but then all of a sudden get your gun out and shot the skinny dude dead, when the fat dude has plenty of fat, shows the guy had no reason to shot the dude, when he was never doing so the first several minutes. So what was the need to all of a sudden pull a gun out and shit him.....it's total obvious bullcrap reason to shot someone beating you. And why come the eye-witness never did anything to help? Is it so hard to ask people to also question all of these things.

Whaaat?! Now I know you're trolling. Marijuana doesn't heal ripped eyes or brain damage (it can't be cured).

Bahahaaa, so now you lost all the argument! You're saying Zimmerman had no reason to shoot because he was being beaten up for too long?! You're insane. So tell me, how long does a person need to be beat up to lose all right to defend himself? 1 minute? 2 minutes? In your logic, Zimmerman would have no right to defend himself if he was being beaten up for 5 hours, since it's too long.

If your mother was being beaten up for 5 minutes (and she had a gun), you don't think she should defend herself?! Or 20 minutes? or 3 hours?

The witness in the trial was smart enough not to jump to the fight. He doesn't know what's going on, or who's the good guy, or the bad guy. He called 911, and then went to the see the rest of the fight. Why would he risk his life?



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