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VitroBahllee on 28 January 2014
bucky1965 said:
VitroBahllee said:
NiKKoM said:
This and the rumored new apple tv with full app and games support could dent the consoles market from the big 3.. With cross compatibilty with the consumers current devices and the new chips which easily produces 360/ps3 level of graphics it could be a gamechanger.. The Barrier to get more sophisticated games by "console" developers would instantly be lowered to millions of people.. First i would expect ports from the ps3/360 generation and then developers will make more and more new games for it..


Why would the barrier be lower for people with a $300 device on level with 360/PS3 when you can get a 360 for cheaper? Or a Wii U for cheaper? Why is this more appealing?

Because they could stream these 360-level graphics to their phone? Conceiveably appealing, but I don't see it being easy to play console games on your phone. 

Mobile (smartphone and tablet) gpu's have already surpassed 360, ps3 in graphics power


Then what's the advantage to the $300 console?



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Alby_da_Wolf on 28 January 2014

Ouyazon!



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bucky1965 on 28 January 2014
VitroBahllee said:
bucky1965 said:
VitroBahllee said:
NiKKoM said:
This and the rumored new apple tv with full app and games support could dent the consoles market from the big 3.. With cross compatibilty with the consumers current devices and the new chips which easily produces 360/ps3 level of graphics it could be a gamechanger.. The Barrier to get more sophisticated games by "console" developers would instantly be lowered to millions of people.. First i would expect ports from the ps3/360 generation and then developers will make more and more new games for it..


Why would the barrier be lower for people with a $300 device on level with 360/PS3 when you can get a 360 for cheaper? Or a Wii U for cheaper? Why is this more appealing?

Because they could stream these 360-level graphics to their phone? Conceiveably appealing, but I don't see it being easy to play console games on your phone. 

Mobile (smartphone and tablet) gpu's have already surpassed 360, ps3 in graphics power


Then what's the advantage to the $300 console?

Xb1=$500

Ps4=$400

WiiU= no ecosystem.



theRepublic on 28 January 2014
superchunk said:

Ouya is NOT

  • full android
  • full android games
  • any console games
I think you need to reread my full post.

 

How will this thing get console games?  Basically no first party, and I don't see any third party jumping at this like it is a full console.



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VitroBahllee on 28 January 2014
bucky1965 said:
VitroBahllee said:
bucky1965 said:
VitroBahllee said:
NiKKoM said:
This and the rumored new apple tv with full app and games support could dent the consoles market from the big 3.. With cross compatibilty with the consumers current devices and the new chips which easily produces 360/ps3 level of graphics it could be a gamechanger.. The Barrier to get more sophisticated games by "console" developers would instantly be lowered to millions of people.. First i would expect ports from the ps3/360 generation and then developers will make more and more new games for it..


Why would the barrier be lower for people with a $300 device on level with 360/PS3 when you can get a 360 for cheaper? Or a Wii U for cheaper? Why is this more appealing?

Because they could stream these 360-level graphics to their phone? Conceiveably appealing, but I don't see it being easy to play console games on your phone. 

Mobile (smartphone and tablet) gpu's have already surpassed 360, ps3 in graphics power


Then what's the advantage to the $300 console?

Xb1=$500

Ps4=$400

WiiU= no ecosystem.

All three play Amazon Instant Video - including Wii U. Maybe you can't stream Amazon music on those things, but what do you expect? People to read Kindle books on their TVs? I know you're saying the game ecosystem is going to matter - but it's unproven.



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BeElite on 29 January 2014

Interesting.

If they can create exclusive software and release in time manner, this could be a nice side console for many.



Mr Puggsly on 29 January 2014

This probably won't end well... unless Android games suddenly become at par with 8th gen console games.



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baloofarsan on 29 January 2014
crissindahouse said:
kirby007 said:
We have a dutch saying: Schoenmaker blijf bij je leest.

which means we should stick to what we are good at

We have exactly the same in Germany

We have the same in Sweden...

 

Seems it is an expression as old as shoes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutor,_ne_ultra_crepidam



AZWification on 29 January 2014

This thing will clearly end up selling more than the PS4, Wii U and Xbox One combined.



                
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steverhcp02 on 01 February 2014
superchunk said:
steverhcp02 said:

Im confused about how you dont equate this to OUYA then describe it as exactly what the OUYA is.

So theyll have the full android backbone? Like Clash of Clans to put on my tv for the 40 seconds I need to tell a builder to spend 7 days upgrading something? Or candy crush? Would bejewelled sell gangbusters on PSN or Live? PvZ? On PSN/Live. What other Android games would make people salivate to play from their couch on a 42 inch tv?

EA already makes android games, why would you think they will somehow carry a new android home console with limited horsepower? Andoird daming andiOS gaming are fine, theyre built upon a mobile infrastructure, to assume you can extrapolate that to the living room is silly, in my opinion. 

What streaming services will amazon offer on thsi device that arent either on every game console, TV, BD player already?

Why would I need a new device marketed as a console foremost when its either going to offer eveything on my phone/tablet and the streaming services already in my entertainment center?

Ouya is NOT

  • full android
  • full android games
  • any console games
I think you need to reread my full post.

What is "full" android?

Android OS is based on a mobile platform that is why Android is not available on any type of PC infrastructure ATM.

There is mention of utilizing mobile components and strength within the console itself whereas XBONE and PS4 utilize PC architecture and horsepower.

So just because its hooked up to a TV it is "console"? If I hook my tablet to my TV it doesnt make it a console and it is full android.

Android is an interface. Using it instead of Metro or XMB doesnt make the components any different. If amazon simply made a console and listed radeon or some other GTX, motherboard, GPU's, RAM etc. I would be more inclined to your argument but this reads like it is an extension of Android in the sense of horsepower and innerds. 

"The most suitable games for the console are likely to be similar to those currently taking tablet devices by storm, where companies such as Rovio, Supercell, King and Kabam are forging ahead in the free-to-play business with a combination of accessible gameplay and high marketing spend".

"Senior publishing sources have been meeting with Amazon for a briefing on the hardware – which currently goes by a number of different codenames – and popular Android and iOS games have been used to demo the device".

Again, I think you are misinterpreting what Amazon is proposing based on the information contained within the article.





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