the Wii is looking awfully lonely down there, look at ps3 and xbox 360 in comparison - ps360 have and always were the better consoles than the Wii

freedquaker said: sully1311 said: Weekly Hardware Chart 11th January 2014   Platform N. America Europe Japan Global 74,704 81,744 N/A 187,997 43,787 54,620 62,710 171,784 75,559 25,054 N/A 106,010 18,919 36,366 14,646 90,758 5,357 15,740 31,476 60,382 28,045 20,343 370 53,188 22,354 12,670 14,211 53,040 2,116 15,763 4,678 32,926 7,154 10,868 386 20,662 If PS4 had been released in Japan, it would have sold between 33K and 58K, and the PS4 sales would climb up to 221 K - 246 K range. This means, with Japan included, and despite the supply issues in US and elsewhere, PS4 would already start selling more than twice as much as XB1 globally. PS4 sales / XB1 sales (With Japan included) Max => 245849 / 106010 = 2.32  (30% - 70%) Min => 220951 / 106010 = 2.08  (32% - 68%)

And if X1 would have been released in the rest of the countries in Europe, the numbers would be quite different. what is the purpose of playing the "what if" game?

Puppyroach said: freedquaker said: sully1311 said: Weekly Hardware Chart 11th January 2014   Platform N. America Europe Japan Global 74,704 81,744 N/A 187,997 43,787 54,620 62,710 171,784 75,559 25,054 N/A 106,010 18,919 36,366 14,646 90,758 5,357 15,740 31,476 60,382 28,045 20,343 370 53,188 22,354 12,670 14,211 53,040 2,116 15,763 4,678 32,926 7,154 10,868 386 20,662 If PS4 had been released in Japan, it would have sold between 33K and 58K, and the PS4 sales would climb up to 221 K - 246 K range. This means, with Japan included, and despite the supply issues in US and elsewhere, PS4 would already start selling more than twice as much as XB1 globally. PS4 sales / XB1 sales (With Japan included) Max => 245849 / 106010 = 2.32  (30% - 70%) Min => 220951 / 106010 = 2.08  (32% - 68%) And if X1 would have been released in the rest of the countries in Europe, the numbers would be quite different. what is the purpose of playing the "what if" game?

Actually PS4 numbers would be the same as now, because there isn't extra supply to be sold there. Now Xbone would benefit

I actually thought the Wii U drop would be greater considering it consistently sold about 20k - 33k per week from January to October of last year. SM3DW really has given it a bump, the problem is that interest and sales were so low, due to a lack of software that a 80 percent bump just brings sales from horrible to not very good. It's Nintendo's own fault though. If Donkey Kong and Mario Kart were out right now, it would be doing atleast 140k per week. I'm also very interested to see how good/bad the launch in Japan is for the PS4. I'm just not sure the software will be there that is going to pull in 300k+ in week one sales, and I think Sony knows that too, which is why as a Japanese company they launched in the U.S. and Europe first.

More 20k?

US SW

Pos	Game	Weekly	Total	Week #
1	Call of Duty: Ghosts (X360) Activision, Shooter	62,194	4,800,386	10
2	Call of Duty: Ghosts (PS3) Activision, Shooter	39,822	2,741,397	10
3	Grand Theft Auto V (X360) Take-Two Interactive, Action	34,971	7,087,063	17
4	NBA 2K14 (X360) Take-Two Interactive, Sports	28,152	1,406,465	15
5	Grand Theft Auto V (PS3) Take-Two Interactive, Action	28,143	5,146,139	17
6	Pokemon X/Y (3DS) Nintendo, Role-Playing	27,846	2,879,016	14
7	Call of Duty: Ghosts (XOne) Activision, Shooter	26,387	904,285	8
8	Minecraft (X360) Microsoft Game Studios, Adventure	25,636	1,586,954	32
9	Just Dance 2014 (Wii) Ubisoft, Misc	24,011	1,384,515	14
10	Wii Fit U (WiiU) Nintendo, Action	22,801	22,801	1
11	Call of Duty: Ghosts (PS4) Activision, Shooter	22,325	836,876	9
12	Battlefield 4 (X360) Electronic Arts, Shooter	21,088	1,549,645	11
13	Battlefield 4 (PS4) Electronic Arts, Shooter	20,495	609,133	9
14	Forza Motorsport 5 (XOne) Microsoft Game Studios, Racing	19,428	528,185	8
15	Battlefield 4 (XOne) Electronic Arts, Shooter	18,390	658,381	8
16	Super Mario 3D World (WiiU) Nintendo, Platform	18,135	684,377	8
17	NBA 2K14 (PS3) Take-Two Interactive, Sports	17,003	958,753	15
18	NBA 2K14 (XOne) Take-Two Interactive, Sports	16,906	340,028	8
19	Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (X360) Ubisoft, Action	15,461	1,100,631	11
20	Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (XOne) Ubisoft, Action	15,350	369,740	8
21	Madden NFL 25 (XOne) Electronic Arts, Sports	15,011	357,033	8
22	Madden NFL 25 (X360) Electronic Arts, Sports	14,731	1,536,709	20
23	NBA 2K14 (PS4) Take-Two Interactive, Sports	14,383	439,687	9
24	Dead Rising 3 (XOne) Microsoft Game Studios, Action	14,246	509,626	8
25	New Super Mario Bros. U (WiiU) Nintendo, Action	14,017	1,526,099	60
26	New Super Luigi U (WiiU) Nintendo, Platform	13,899	674,907	20
27	Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (PS4) Ubisoft, Action	13,748	533,814	9
28	Madden NFL 25 (PS4) Electronic Arts, Sports	13,744	377,071	9
29	Ryse: Son of Rome (XOne) Microsoft Game Studios, Action	13,445	427,671	8
30	The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds (3DS) Nintendo, Action	12,669	835,277	8

the nature of the WIi was never going to ensure its longetivity IMHO at least compared to PS360

Alright, PS4 dethrones the almighty 3DS. Not too shabby.

Perhaps. Or Nintendo simply couldn't capitalize on the audience.

They got one thing right by making Wii appeal to them. But after Wii Fit Nintendo dropped the ball, and 3rd parties were never on board.

Same story with the DS.

Apple (well ios devs) are managing to keep all its "mobile gamers" hooked still.

It's not even Nintendo's fault...as they had to focus on their hardcore users with the Wii too. They should've upscaled the entire company in that period (they sure had the money to do it). That upscale could've paid off now with the troubles they had with WiiU HD dev.

Great for PS4/3DS! Good for X1! Terrible but expected for WiiU/Vita!



Btw how much did the original Wii Fit do opening week? I was gonna say "yay Wii Fit U bombed!" but then it doesn't seem like the kinda game to have a big first week as opposed to long legs.