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Fusioncode said:
Zero999 said:
Fusioncode said:

Have you been living under a rock? Sony listened to the gamers this time around. They refused to incorporate all that DRM garbage, didn't make the system always online, changed the controller, got rid of the Cell, made the PS4 easier to develop 4, charged a reasonable price for powerful hardware, and didn't force a camera down our throats. Face the facts Zero, Sony's making a lot of right calls this gen. Don't let your hatred of them blind you. 

expensive device with few games, most of wich are cross gen multiplats and paid online. lot's of wrong calls.

Expensive? I think it's reasonably priced, Sony's probably making a loss on it. And of course it doesn't have that many games! It just came out! The WiiU didn't get a decent library until a year after launch. PS4's got Infamous, Transistor, Uncharted, Rime, Shadow of the Beast, and Driveclub all coming this year. They also have new indie titles releasing every month. The paid online is annoying but PS+ is a great service and I'll happily continue paying it. 

I've been following PS4 games, for I am planning on purchasing a PS4, but I have never heard of Transistor, Rime, or Shadow of the Beast, are they Indy games? I have heard of inFAMOUS, Uncharted 4, Drive Club, and The Order 1886.



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Fusioncode said:
Zero999 said:

it's 400 dollars, it's expensive. this isn't a dsicussion about wii u but now that you mentioned, it will take at least a year for ps4 to (maybe) have a decent library too.

I used the WiiU as a example to prove my point that no system is going to have a massive library just a couple months after launch. 

It's not about having a massive library at launch, it's about having a small and bad library at launch.



TheLegendaryWolf said:
Fusioncode said:
Zero999 said:
Fusioncode said:

Have you been living under a rock? Sony listened to the gamers this time around. They refused to incorporate all that DRM garbage, didn't make the system always online, changed the controller, got rid of the Cell, made the PS4 easier to develop 4, charged a reasonable price for powerful hardware, and didn't force a camera down our throats. Face the facts Zero, Sony's making a lot of right calls this gen. Don't let your hatred of them blind you. 

expensive device with few games, most of wich are cross gen multiplats and paid online. lot's of wrong calls.

Expensive? I think it's reasonably priced, Sony's probably making a loss on it. And of course it doesn't have that many games! It just came out! The WiiU didn't get a decent library until a year after launch. PS4's got Infamous, Transistor, Uncharted, Rime, Shadow of the Beast, and Driveclub all coming this year. They also have new indie titles releasing every month. The paid online is annoying but PS+ is a great service and I'll happily continue paying it. 

I've been following PS4 games, for I am planning on purchasing a PS4, but I have never heard of Transistor, Rime, or Shadow of the Beast, are they Indy games? I have heard of inFAMOUS, Uncharted 4, Drive Club, and The Order 1886.

Transistor is made by the same team behind Bastion, Shadow of the Beast is a remake of a classic Amiga title, and Rime is kind of like Ico. Rime and Transistor are indies, not sure about Shadow of the Beast. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Zero999 said:
Fusioncode said:
Zero999 said:

it's 400 dollars, it's expensive. this isn't a dsicussion about wii u but now that you mentioned, it will take at least a year for ps4 to (maybe) have a decent library too.

I used the WiiU as a example to prove my point that no system is going to have a massive library just a couple months after launch. 

It's not about having a massive library at launch, it's about having a small and bad library at launch.

Small? Yes. Bad? No. Have you seen Resogun? It's an excellent game. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Fusioncode said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:
Fusioncode said:
Zero999 said:
Fusioncode said:

Have you been living under a rock? Sony listened to the gamers this time around. They refused to incorporate all that DRM garbage, didn't make the system always online, changed the controller, got rid of the Cell, made the PS4 easier to develop 4, charged a reasonable price for powerful hardware, and didn't force a camera down our throats. Face the facts Zero, Sony's making a lot of right calls this gen. Don't let your hatred of them blind you. 

expensive device with few games, most of wich are cross gen multiplats and paid online. lot's of wrong calls.

Expensive? I think it's reasonably priced, Sony's probably making a loss on it. And of course it doesn't have that many games! It just came out! The WiiU didn't get a decent library until a year after launch. PS4's got Infamous, Transistor, Uncharted, Rime, Shadow of the Beast, and Driveclub all coming this year. They also have new indie titles releasing every month. The paid online is annoying but PS+ is a great service and I'll happily continue paying it. 

I've been following PS4 games, for I am planning on purchasing a PS4, but I have never heard of Transistor, Rime, or Shadow of the Beast, are they Indy games? I have heard of inFAMOUS, Uncharted 4, Drive Club, and The Order 1886.

Transistor is made by the same team behind Bastion, Shadow of the Beast is a remake of a classic Amiga title, and Rime is kind of like Ico. Rime and Transistor are indies, not sure about Shadow of the Beast. 

Cool thanks. I want a PS4, but I don't want to pay for online.



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prayformojo said:
DucksUnlimited said:
The Gamecube was a "powerful hardware console at an attractive price."

The right moves for Sony =/= the right moves for Nintendo.


Why I have to correct statments like yours over and over again is beyond me. The only thing the Gamecube shared with MS and Sony was the power. The controller was not standard, being that it only had one analog stick and a tiny little plastic nub. The media was not a standard DVD. The console was purple with a handle and it didn't push online gameplay AT ALL.

Nitnendo hasn't released a console that uses intdustry standards since the SNES. Ironically, that was the last sucessful "hardcore" console they released. That's what people mean when they say "pull a Sony". They mean, release something like a PS4, only with Nintendo games.

You sound like you've never held a GC controller before. It was pretty standard. The shape of the nub didn't detract from it's useablility in any substantial way. It's main drawbacks were it's lack of an L bumper and clickable joysticks, but even those could be worked around. Hell, I didn't even know the PS2 had clickable analogs until well after the gen was over.

TBH I don't think miniDVDs were too much of an issue either, as devs could always use multiple discs if they absolutely had to. Honestly, I think the GC's main issue was Nintendo's self important, stuck up, "quality over quantity" attitude when it came to third party devs and multiplats. The way I see it, that's what they've been paying for since the N64 days.



TheLegendaryWolf said:

Cool thanks. I want a PS4, but I don't want to pay for online.

Then pay for the great value of the PS+ games and get online for free as a bonus to the games ;)



I'm not so sure nintendo will have another chance to do it the old school way. I think the console industry will start changing drastically over the next 3 - 5 years.



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Conina said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:

Cool thanks. I want a PS4, but I don't want to pay for online.

Then pay for the great value of the PS+ games and get online for free as a bonus to the games ;)


Alas, I don't currently own a credit card...



TheLegendaryWolf said:
Conina said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:

Cool thanks. I want a PS4, but I don't want to pay for online.

Then pay for the great value of the PS+ games and get online for free as a bonus to the games ;)


Alas, I don't currently own a credit card...

PS+ cards (retail), PSN cards (retail), PayPal...