Sony's smartwatch weekly sales just outselled my favourite cake total sales in local bakery.

Gotta mean something people =O

Also don't take too much offense, you are just the current poster boy for comparisons thread. It was Seece long time ago.

Given I am clowning around, I notice that some people are going a bit crazy.

It does. It means those smartwatches are selling like hot cakes!

> Out to buy sony stock

But the agendas and logic restrictions are what makes most sales threads fun to read.

Feel free to propose any comparisons you want, but expect people to debate it's relevance.

You want a metric, why not compare revenues?  People have entertainment budget.  $1 spent on 3DS is the same as $1 spent on PS4.
$1 funneled into a system is $1 funneled into the video game industry to create more games.

Revenue is an objective comparison, but I'm pretty sure all the 3DS fans will cry that a unit is a unit because their perceived advantage will be lower.

Fyi some rough revenue estimates.

14th Dec 2013

3DS: 899,915 * 150 + 3,419,897 * 40 = $271.8M
PS4: 374,879 * 400 + 1,000,956 * 60 = $210.0M
XB1: 306,436 * 500 +   818,064 * 60 = $202.3M
WIU: 240,053 * 300 + 1,403,817 * 60 = $156.2M

21st Dec 2013  (using same SW numbers as prev week because they're not updated yet)

3DS: 1,078,568 * 150 + 3,419,897 * 40 = $298.6M
PS4:   656,655 * 400 + 1,000,956 * 60 = $322.7M
XB1:   307,366 * 500 +   818,064 * 60 = $202.8M
WIU:   319,860 * 300 + 1,403,817 * 60 = $180.2M

Most 3DS and WiiU include a free bundled title whereas XB1 & PS4 do not, so if we account for that:

14th Dec 2013 (minus bundles)

3DS: 899,915 * 150 + 2,519,982 * 40 = $235.8M
WIU : 240,053 * 300 + 1,163,764 * 60 = $141.8M

21st Dec 2013  (minus bundles)

3DS: 1,078,568 * 150 + 2,341,329 * 40 = $255.4M
WIU:   319,860 * 300 + 1083957 * 60 = $161.0M

Obviously these could be refined much more using the actual game prices.  VGC should do that

I am just responding to you because I was in that thread you guys are talking about. I understood your point of it isn't exactly fair to compare the 2 because of supply issues and no Japan release. I was personally responding to the people who claim you can't compare Consoles & HH's in general. Why not? It isn't like HH's typically sell better overall. It's just that Nintendo's do. Look at the typical Nintendo consoles sales. They normally sell pretty poorly but the PS & PS2 outsold the GBA & PSP. It's fair ground. 

OT: As for this thread? I think people on both sides are taking things to far extremes. 

First, you have people saying "Well 3DS is crushing everything" just because. Even if 3DS had nothing to do with the topic. 

On the other side you have people saying "3DS is a $200 system so it doesn't count" why not? If it was selling like the Wii U nobody would care.

Next, you have people saying "I can post anything I want to because I can" While this is true, why would you post things without a cause on purpose? You're just trying to start something. People should stop posting like they are superior because of their gaming machine. 

Finally, you have the other side saying "comparing HH's & consoles is like comparing PS4 sales to banana sales" no it's not. I know it. You know it. We all know it. 

I find that it's mostly teenagers and early 20 somethings that make the mistake of thinking handhelds and consoles are in the same market and are the same product. I don't know why that is. The Gameboy and Gamegear were not competing with SNES and Genesis. The GBA was not competing against the PS2. The DS was not competing against the PS3, it was competing against the PSP.

It's not just forum users who want it this way, its just a fact. Look it up. You can compare all you want and try to make the rules the way you want them to be, but that won't change the rules and how the marketplace runs.

Typically, products are compared to similar products, for obvious reasons. For example, handhelds and home consoles aren't usually closely compared because they cater to different audiences, have different sales patterns, etc.. However, a more general route could be taken with such products: for example, determining which general gaming platform is most popular in the world. Deeper comparisons are usually restricted to those consoles in more direct competition (I.e. PS4 vs XboxO).

How about we stop entertaining this idea of the 3DS and PS4 competing. Let's call it for what it really is: Nintendo fans not owning up to the fact that the PS4 has been a bigger success than they want to see. All year we heard about how "Next Gen graphics aren't that impressive compared to current gen" and "Just wait for 3D Mario!" "System seller, system seller!" Now, the numbers show they were wrong and what do we hear? "B-b-but 3DS!"

You tell me who has the "agenda" here. -_-; This conversation really doesn't need to go beyond this; by entertaining this discussion further, it's only helping build their strawman. Besides, PS4 hasn't even launched in Japan? Surely with a launch there, we'd have comparable sales to 3DS. But, as I've just said, this is merely deflecting attention away from the real argument here: The PS4 is outselling the WiiU and X1 combined, the HOME CONSOLES.

Meanwhile, 3DS outsold the crap out of the VITA in the handheld market. Oh, no, how ever will I sleep at night knowing this!?