For those saying Pokebank was hacked, your getting things mixed up.

For the short time it was up in Japan, they were able to confirm "legit" hack pokemon were able to get through the transfer. Any blantant hacks tho were blocks. No one was hacking the app itself.

I was refering to preformance stuff like download speeds, stable services, no lag while online play and that kind of stuff. Not talking about features in general, in this regard they are late to the party. 

However, afaik, apps like youtube, nextflix, etc are not being made by Nintendo, so you can't blame them for releasing those apps very late.

You're kinda kicking Nintendo while it's down, bro. I'm not arguing that Nintendo's online service is on par with Sony's and Microsoft's, but the service has been spotty (not out; spotty. I was able to get in the eShop and download Ducktales and Mighty Switch Force! 2 last night) for two days and you're making it sound like this is the norm. Meanwhile, PSN and Steam are/were having the same problem, albeit on a lesser scale it seems, but their allowed to have a few blemishes on the record.

This is essentially what you're saying:

"Sony's network goes down from time to time and was the subject of the most famous asskicking from hackers in the industry's history, but it's OK since it is usually up to par."

"Nintendo gets no leeway. It's network has always been shit."

But it's not a matter of services, it's a matter of reliability!

"Doesn't matter, it's shit."

ok thats fair, I usually judge online by all aspects. stable services? well there getting their butt kicked now. Ive found using stuff like Netflix is less stable than my VIta and PS3 But havent tried on Wii U. 

Then why are the apps late? its puzzles me, even when Wii was at the top of its game it still got stuff late, hell it only just Hulu Plus this year.

It wasnt my intention to make it seem like its the norm. Sorry if it came across like this. Yes to a certain extent they are allowed to have a few blemishes, because and this is going to sound messed up the online services are good and that much better than what Ninty offers. Im not even talking this instance im talking their online overall. 

Its a matter of everything, now i acknowledge Ninty is definetly better than they were in the Wii (shudders) but they need to be running with this thing, right now it feels like theri jogging, they dont have that luxury. For the record this isnt anywhere near the crap that was the PS3 hack.

Which laws exactly? And why do they only apply to the 3DS and not to the DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, iOS, Android, PC, PS3, PS4, XBO...?

Why doesn't every European country gets its own region? They have different laws, partly different rating systems (USK, PEGI), but a common region code.

At least something! :)

Today I got up over an hour earlier just to try again. The eshop was accessible as promised and my system transfer at least started. I'm now hoping there won't be any error during the transfer... I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

And please, guys, don't fight too much about online services. All have their flaws.

And while Nintendo dropped the ball on this one, it will probably be forgotten quickly.

We can shake  hands on that one. But it at least appears that they're sssssssssslllllllloooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwlllllllyyyyyyyyy coming around, with unified accounts and digital wallets across their handheld and console. Heck, the Wii U's online component and OS has come a bit of a ways since it launched; the OS is significantly faster, downloads now happen automatically upon purchase (and it will continue to download after turning off the system) and the browser and certain apps like YouTube have and will continue to receive updates to enhance performance. It ain't no Xbox Live, but I personally don't expect a free service to be on the same level as a paid premium service. I don't expect NPR or PBS to match Sirius or HBO in quality.

Short term solution until the server-infrastructure is updated to handle the increased traffic. Seems a lot of people got 3DS or maybe even WiiU at christmas and were connecting it now to the internet. I'm surprised though that Nintendo wasn't expecting it. I have a hunch, that the united account-system introduced some weeks ago might be increasing the load, so that combined with higher traffic around the holidays it produces problems now. Probably should have waited with the account-unification until after the holidays - on the other hand Nintendo probably wanted Miiverse to release until holidays on 3DS to sell more devices.

I dunno, but pretty sure things will be back to normal after the holidays.

Nice to hear your issues are resolved (seemingly). I wish you a lot of fun, with your shiny new 3DS LL.