That's their problem, they aimed at both and missed both. Chasing two rabbits and all that.

I would be pissed if I had money tied to this company. Damn I am glad I dont.

The greatest added challenge now is the extended time and cost of HD development compared to the Wii era, this will prevent 1st parties to arrive as timely and strategically as they probably need to in order to help sales chugging along.

They have fixed a couple of things; the removed the Basic SKU which should never have seen the light of day and they cut the price. In my opinion, they should rather have launched it without the Gamepad and with a ramped up Wii-mote and maybe at 250$ like the last time. They might have had a slight loss at first but at least they would have a control scheme that people were familiar with and that already had some support and knowledge in developer bases. Their price cut now only served to cost them even more in losses.

The Wii U was poorly planned and poorly executed, unfortunately. Another problem for them will be the inevitable comparisons to the Wii and even the PS360 sales-wise, when you look at other Nintendo consoles it doesn't appear to be that bad. Comparing any console to the Wii's first few years will make them look silly.

You all fail to read. He said this YEAR.

AKA THIS HOLIDAY.

Why is this a good strategy? Because the core wasnt getting on board yet with all the third party games they released. So they're pushing family to bump up the install base in time for Mario Kart.

Then they release games for highly skilled gamers NEXT YEAR (First party games)


Read what is THERE not what you want to SEE.

To true then again I remember lots of games on Amiga etc where like that ,  it wasn't just specific to one platform.

How many times over the subsiquent years have we heard developers say , we have to make our games newbie friendly while retaining our core  game play , only to see that become the lowest common denominator , rather than games that scaled themselves to the user , another thing that contributed to less challenging games is popular genres like shootemups , that prided themselves on their hardness and skill factor and their lose of popularity , has gaming 's demographics widened.

It's frustrating. And some claim to bump up the difficulty with advanced AI, when in reality they resort to cheap scripted tricks (such as the "clever" AI in F.E.A.R. that is activated when you're walking between two elevators, you're instantly surrounded through no feat of cleverness).

The new Thief, Dragon Age II and a bunch of other games instantly fell off my radar when the developers uttered the words "broader audience", subsequent gameplay info and footage support this view and the game is essentially ruined for anyone looking for something of actual value and beyond cheap thrills.

Same here I was looking forward to a new Thief  then reality hit in the form of the  footage you mentioned , but silly me paid good money for that pos Dragon Age II .

That is Nintendo's way of throwing the towel while trying to save face.

WiiU...the "U" was supposed to mean a Wii for "YOU" and at the time of its announcement the "YOU" meant for gamers. Nintendo knows it lost that demographic (well, a large part of it). Now they are back to the family demographic, giving up on the "high skilled" players until next year. I just think they gave up, accepted reality and try to get back the Wii casual crowd to increase profits.

Maybe I'm just ranting, but I am a bit frustrated by Nintendo's apparent lack of support for a console I was excited about.

Or you know, you could take a look at the games that are actually ready for the system Venepe.
I mean the only game you could say was for highly skilled gamers are Super Mario 3D World PIkmin 3 and TW101. But they have family oriented aesthetics

Saying they're not competing with Sony and Microsoft is such a cop out and the sign of a business in irreversible decline. I remember Blackberry saying the exact same thing not long ago about Apple.